Was well as try to debunk the more ridiculous ones

An example of how to do a proper seige would be operation nimrod

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Embassy_siege?wprov=sfla1

@Supreme Grand Master Janus it was very much the biggest operation the ATF ever did.

Most proper seiges u don’t hear about em

And it failed spectacularly

@Timeward

They never mobilized as many assault troops and vehicles before

>why did they have helicopters

@Supreme Grand Master Janus well they used a plan after losing the element of surprise

People call them "sieges" but I see neither trenches nor siege-tactics.

When your plan relies on the element of surprise

Its fucking idiotic to still use it after the surprise is lost

If you want to know what the plan was

Always have a contingency plan

Basically they'd approach the compound in a cattle truck

And raid it fast before the people inside could react

Just like Payday, stick to stealth, but always be ready to go loud

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The helis would come later to provide intel and fire support

>Fire support

WHY THO

did the Davidians have heavy weaponry

Like attack choppers or fortunate son side door choppers

helicopters seem a bit much

It's like the AC-130 mission in OG Modern Warfare.

They did have dozens of assault rifles, trotsky

"Sneak" 141 out of the AO.

This could have all been solved with a drone strike or an actual anti terrorism unit

What I have been saying

This was a huge compound

Doesn’t matter

It's ATF though, they're better at no-knocking suburban homes and shooting dogs.

^^

That too

The villages they're normally used on seem to be destroyed well enough

When it comes to actual prepared defenders they're pretty shit.

ATF was prob used for political reasons

What's this about shooting pets?

https://www.newsweek.com/fire-wont-die-166178

Should have just called in swat