That's in accordance with the law. There isn't a law that lets you decide someone has to support another life so enforcement is irrelevant. There's nothing to enforce.

People have responsibilities to eachother, sure it's not a "right" to someone elses body, but you have to take into account how your actions affect other people

Life is not precious

the baby inside the body has a right to that body

It is in abundance

@Win Roe the only people on question are the person carrying the child and the child

if you have a baby in there you have already given up some of your rights to this "baby" thing

Personhood is a universal human concept. The right to personhood is recognized in the UDHR, for instance. So Jews would still be persons regardless of what the Nazis say. That's WHY it's a crime to kill them

The child does not have the legal right to the mother's womb, as I understand it

squatters rights

checkmate atheist

Jack, rights and duties are correlated. It has a right to the womb the same way a baby has a right to food. It's dependent on the mother as a result of the one-way consent of the relationship

I think we can find a cutoff point ti where the abortion doctor cab only remove the child if it can do so without damaging it

@Marushia Dark why does it?

How can consent be one way?

consent is a retarded concept

Both parties must consent, you're making shit up

@Chuckler That's such revoltingly Gnostic bullshit but okay

FFS ... why do babies have a right to be fed by their parents, Jack? Yes, it's one way cuz the parents chose to have the kid, the kid didn't choose its parents.

For anyone believing in a "god" ANYTHING that happens is presumably part of the plan so you are disqualified from adding comment. Sit at kids table. You can run around the wacky warehouse while we have a pint

@Marushia Dark because after they're born you're responsible for them

Oi ... WHY

that's the part you're missing

So people have the inherent right to personhood, but aborting a baby is fine because it's not a person, but how do we determine what is a person without relying on their inheramt right to personhood

sounds like Manichee nonsense but ok flesh-hater

WHY are you responsible for them

@Jack of Trades @Marushia Dark consent is fucking retarded as a concept

cuz they're a person that YOU CREATED

@Marushia Dark I'm not missing it.

STFU mother

Consent is literally the root of all morality, Roe

Go be edgy elsewhere

If you want it, you're responsible for it. If you have it, you want it. QED

And it's fundamentally broken

@Marushia Dark and yet you just took away consent

@spooky ducc Yes I think I KNOW that in our timespace life in in abundance. 404 Argument not found

gods battle each other constantly over 'plans' though?

@Marushia Dark you're very bad at arguing

> If you want it, you're responsible for it. If you have it, you want it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af1OxkFOK18

Im not watching this