How can you not get it?

I get the feeling you're talking about some vague idea of 'them' that doesn't really exist except in your head

THEY have this us vs. them mentality.

For them we are all the enemies because we pollute and they feel righteous because they don't.

What *exactly* are you talking about? Discord?

This cute little politics discord here?

I think he means identity politicians

This little corner of the world that no one enters except those with wild fantasies about greater worlds?

I'm talking about the green-lefties.

Can you see that?

No I don't

I reall don't know what you mean

Why?

I have a double think image that decently explanatory, I'll post it in <#613769167199535104>

I thought it was a predicate in our discussion.

No it wasn't

We were debating a general problem with society, an underlying issue, something that's been making the west sick from the inside

It wasn't about concrete people, or even groups of people, it was about the notion that the west is falling for its own propaganda

We have no clue who those people are exactly, except for some politicians

This one? @yordanyordanov

Yes.

This one right here.

I might join in since the other two active channels rn are about fucking phone radiation and dotty

It's better than bronies

What the hell is going on with this discord server?

Bronies, faggos, voice chat is empty.

Damn is the politeia the only remaining place for actual discussions?

It's 7:20 in the morning here

I think most people are asleep right now or just getting up

Well, it Saturday, so I expect friction later on.

So, now back to discussion.

It's still Friday here

@ETBrooD I thought you were referring to the green propaganda and teh consequences of it.

Well, we all know that this green propaganda is started by a small but vocal minority of far left activists, isn't it?

Green propaganda is a 20th century plague that hit the west when industrialism desperately needed some curbing

Thanks Al Gore

They were right, but as with most movements, eventually they were wrong about things

But the problem was, in people's perception the greens were right so often that they now had an ideological attachment to them

They weren't supposed to be wrong anymore

So when they were, no one noticed

Because it's easy to just use fear to make wild claims