well okay 'start' was a poor choice of words

the powder was there, but they certainly didn't shy away from lighting the fuse

I'm not implying nothing was wrong ever in the middle east before bush got there

That still doesnt take away from the fact that comparing your oponent to hitler is bad

well no shit, and Republicans took every idea the left had, called it "socialist/communist" and walked away from the conversation

Citation please

so is it any wonder a new generation has come up, thrown up their hands and said "okay fine, lets try socialism"

bet they're real happy they cut education spending now

I can think of a good deal of issues that would get bipartisan support, its lefist extremism that they reject

Education neefs reform anyways, funneling more money into public education than every other country hasnt done us any good

see you say that, then I remember my school career being characterized by mass teacher layoffs and school closures, and textbooks more than a decade old that don't mention condoms or safe sex

Hell half of why uni us so expensive is BECAUSE of federal intervention

because student loans are a fucking joke

Writing blank checks to universities has done nothing more than bloat Administration staffing and caused a horrific downward spiral

What the left seems utterly incapable of understanding is that dumping money on a fire doesnt put the fire out

It just makes it bigger

so just further neglecting it or just taking away what little they have is clearly going to fix everything

Again with your strawmans

The idea is to find what caused the fire in the first place

just saying dude, Oregon schools didn't close and have mass teacher layoffs over a *surplus* of funding

So we can stop the fire and prevent it from happening again

Schools failed in one of the most leftist states in the union surprise surprise

oh nononono bitch, don't even play that card, Oregon was red until bush

No it wasnt

stop with your partisan horseshit

Oregon had voted blue in every presidential election like ever

Writing off student debt is the worst idea, something given has no value. If you took the money you pay it back, the most I'd accept is a freeze on interest and providing a payment plan option that works with their income

Was the only state to vote blue against Reagan

Its not partisan horseshit dude its just true

Chicago has been run by the left for 50 years and its practically a third world country

>everythings the lefts fault forever
fucking done, not putting up with this again

I'll come back when the partisans are gone

Everywhere leftist policy runs its course it fails spectacularly

The Dems have messed with how primarys are run on the west coast, as in the use they EU model, you only vote if you're already voted into the party, all candidates are decided via caucus

Go ahead an run, you would die on this hill if you wanna have this debate

Pro leftist position is indefensible on education

Leftists education=indoctrination

>pro leftist
because literally anything not on your side of the center line is the extreme. what'd I fucking tell you. fucking partisan nonsense has no fucking place in proper political discussion

Politics is war by other means

Wrong

That's diplomacy