Message from @pwtdo

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2019-09-30 02:19:43 UTC  

It is satire because it's not a serious argument

2019-09-30 02:19:58 UTC  

It's dark comedy

2019-09-30 02:20:13 UTC  

it is a serious argument taken to its logical conclusion

2019-09-30 02:20:20 UTC  

Fine

2019-09-30 02:20:26 UTC  

Go on

2019-09-30 02:20:42 UTC  

No carbon emissions = no modern mechanized agriculture

2019-09-30 02:20:54 UTC  

You need about 1 hectare to farm subsistently

2019-09-30 02:21:13 UTC  

the carrying capacity of the world is about 3 billion

2019-09-30 02:21:14 UTC  

have you considered that not feeding people is not a bug but a feature for those seeking dominance?

2019-09-30 02:21:43 UTC  

not the first time that leftist authoritarians engineered famines to consolidate power

2019-09-30 02:21:50 UTC  

@pwtdo It's not a well-thought-out feature if that's the case

2019-09-30 02:22:02 UTC  

There need to be people in order to have power

2019-09-30 02:22:11 UTC  

sure. but which people?

2019-09-30 02:22:12 UTC  

yes it is. less people, more chance of survival. you just have to be sure youre the one on top

2019-09-30 02:22:34 UTC  

@pwtdo thats where the eugenics comes in.

2019-09-30 02:22:44 UTC  

they sure as hell don't need any pesky middle-class kulaks mucking up their schemes

2019-09-30 02:22:55 UTC  

Bernie "Just the Billyuhnahs now" Sanders had advocated for basically ethnic cleansing

2019-09-30 02:23:00 UTC  

@SilentSkies No it isn't. The more technology and luxury still exist, the more the power actually means

2019-09-30 02:23:27 UTC  

i disagree that technology and luxury are required for power

2019-09-30 02:23:31 UTC  

What's the point of being the ruler of the world if you still have to work 16 hours a day out in the field just to grow food for yourself?

2019-09-30 02:23:45 UTC  

louis XIV had more power than anyone alive today could dream of

2019-09-30 02:23:51 UTC  

power is relative. and the ruler would be the only one who doesnt have to work, so thats relatively the best

2019-09-30 02:24:09 UTC  

I'm not saying they're required. I'm saying the power is more useful if they exist

2019-09-30 02:24:30 UTC  

these people would rather be in a techno-aristocracy over a bunch of serfs than democratic leaders of free individuals

2019-09-30 02:24:44 UTC  

@SilentSkies Well that's a mistake

2019-09-30 02:24:46 UTC  

Think of O'Brien in 1984. He had very little additional luxury or technology compared to Winston.

2019-09-30 02:24:54 UTC  

But he had infinitely more power.

2019-09-30 02:25:05 UTC  

Power is relative. You already said that

2019-09-30 02:25:25 UTC  

exactly 1984. the tippy tops had far less than the average person pre-revolution, but more than everyone else presently

2019-09-30 02:25:46 UTC  

So long as their boot is on your face and not the other way around they win.

2019-09-30 02:26:22 UTC  

It still wouldn't be as good as just helping society along and enjoying the luxuries that come along with technological advancement

2019-09-30 02:26:29 UTC  

That being said I'm quite sure they'll be eating foie gras while laughing their asses off at the proles eating maggots.

2019-09-30 02:26:44 UTC  

Today's tech billionaires live better than any king who's ever existed on earth

2019-09-30 02:27:10 UTC  

The eating bugs thing is a dead giveaway. Humiliation those beneath you is pure exercise of power.

2019-09-30 02:27:12 UTC  

not so, a king ruled over all he saw. the elites today have to share

2019-09-30 02:27:25 UTC  

RELATIVELY, yes

2019-09-30 02:27:28 UTC  

and they are accountable for the most part

2019-09-30 02:27:35 UTC  

Relative to their time

2019-09-30 02:27:37 UTC  

Not ours

2019-09-30 02:27:44 UTC  

yes for sure

2019-09-30 02:28:30 UTC  

In absolute terms, people today are far better off than the nobles or kings years ago