Message from @Benjamin Henry

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2019-09-30 02:23:27 UTC  

i disagree that technology and luxury are required for power

2019-09-30 02:23:31 UTC  

What's the point of being the ruler of the world if you still have to work 16 hours a day out in the field just to grow food for yourself?

2019-09-30 02:23:45 UTC  

louis XIV had more power than anyone alive today could dream of

2019-09-30 02:23:51 UTC  

power is relative. and the ruler would be the only one who doesnt have to work, so thats relatively the best

2019-09-30 02:24:09 UTC  

I'm not saying they're required. I'm saying the power is more useful if they exist

2019-09-30 02:24:30 UTC  

these people would rather be in a techno-aristocracy over a bunch of serfs than democratic leaders of free individuals

2019-09-30 02:24:44 UTC  

@SilentSkies Well that's a mistake

2019-09-30 02:24:46 UTC  

Think of O'Brien in 1984. He had very little additional luxury or technology compared to Winston.

2019-09-30 02:24:54 UTC  

But he had infinitely more power.

2019-09-30 02:25:05 UTC  

Power is relative. You already said that

2019-09-30 02:25:25 UTC  

exactly 1984. the tippy tops had far less than the average person pre-revolution, but more than everyone else presently

2019-09-30 02:25:46 UTC  

So long as their boot is on your face and not the other way around they win.

2019-09-30 02:26:22 UTC  

It still wouldn't be as good as just helping society along and enjoying the luxuries that come along with technological advancement

2019-09-30 02:26:29 UTC  

That being said I'm quite sure they'll be eating foie gras while laughing their asses off at the proles eating maggots.

2019-09-30 02:26:44 UTC  

Today's tech billionaires live better than any king who's ever existed on earth

2019-09-30 02:27:10 UTC  

The eating bugs thing is a dead giveaway. Humiliation those beneath you is pure exercise of power.

2019-09-30 02:27:12 UTC  

not so, a king ruled over all he saw. the elites today have to share

2019-09-30 02:27:25 UTC  

RELATIVELY, yes

2019-09-30 02:27:28 UTC  

and they are accountable for the most part

2019-09-30 02:27:35 UTC  

Relative to their time

2019-09-30 02:27:37 UTC  

Not ours

2019-09-30 02:27:44 UTC  

yes for sure

2019-09-30 02:28:30 UTC  

In absolute terms, people today are far better off than the nobles or kings years ago

2019-09-30 02:29:16 UTC  

If they just wanted to live like kings why don't they just sell their stock and go do so?

2019-09-30 02:29:28 UTC  

They don't even need to do that

2019-09-30 02:29:48 UTC  

They can fly anywhere on the planet, do anything

2019-09-30 02:29:53 UTC  

But at any time they could just give up their responsibilities.

2019-09-30 02:29:54 UTC  

Buy anything, fuck anyone

2019-09-30 02:30:04 UTC  

yeah thats all true

2019-09-30 02:30:07 UTC  

As it stands they have obligations.

2019-09-30 02:30:21 UTC  

They choose their obligations

2019-09-30 02:31:20 UTC  

Ruling over the world (or any arbitrary smaller part of it) is an unnecessary headache

2019-09-30 02:31:20 UTC  

They keep choosing to take on more though. They want more power, more involvement, more control.

2019-09-30 02:31:25 UTC  

Why would they want to do that?

2019-09-30 02:31:32 UTC  

Because they're sociopaths.

2019-09-30 02:31:49 UTC  

If that's your opinion, sure

2019-09-30 02:33:43 UTC  

Not sociopathy, hubris. They want to be the one to save the world, but it doesn't need saving

2019-09-30 02:37:25 UTC  

"The world don't wanna be saved, only left alone"

2019-09-30 02:37:34 UTC  

Elysian Fields, Megadeth, 1994

2019-09-30 02:37:48 UTC  

I don't say the C-Word often...

2019-09-30 02:37:53 UTC  

You're giving these people too much credit. You think Sundar Pichai, or Zuckerberg, or Soros are noble but misguided?