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I think most people accept climate change as real

I don't think he said that

You make an active effort to sabotage environmentists, UnScott. Why bother?

We just think the lefts solutions are dumb

the dispute is whats causing it and what if anything can be done about it

hylia

there are 7+ billion people on this planet

who all shit. and eat and etc.

And?

@UnScottable

I wasn't paying that much attention but it seemed that way...

im sorry but there is no way around us destroying this planet over time

its just the way it is

in fact its like our skill to take resources and turn them into shit we want

thats like OUR WHOLE THING

frankly I'm in the camp of 'fuck it, no stopping it, better off developing infrastructure to prepare for what we can certainly tell is coming'.

But we can prolong the planet's life long enough to escape it. There IS hope.

UnScott is the edgy 12 year old from middle school who horribly misquotes Nietzsche

well im glad you have hope i guess

have you gone to china or india @Hylia

I would have guessed Rand, but your choice was better @Tiberius

i dont at all though, for me its like... idk accelerationism is the only option

This is what I have gathered thus far

Go there, tell me there is hope

^

ye they dont give a fuck

It is not us

we are clean.

I have not, but every bit of horror I see just reminds me of the need to fight against it.

We try our best.

and if they see us losing money cuz we do give a fuck. they will take advantage of that

and take advantage of US

We can do better. And we can push the entire world to do better.

Then do it.

That doesnt mean they will listen tho

there are cultures that are quite literally opposed to our way of life

entire cultures

China lit does not care

At all

We just have to have hope, and keep trying.

I want to see climate activists petitioning india and china