The US didn't even sign at Geneva

We need to continue that trend. Backing out of the Climate Accords was a good step in the right direction

But climate change

Ree

@Nathan James 123 assets don't matter. It's about keeping promises.

Oh, because NATO's in a position to bitch about promises, now?

to us or anyone else

I wasn't kidding about their border encroachments

they have our hardware in the fucking Black Sea for fucks sake

America is shit at keeping its promises, kek @SilentSkies

>Kurds

>Ukraine

>Made an agreement to help them fight ISIS. ISIS is gone now. Promise kept.
>Obama era policy

Not only did you fuck them over and throw them to Turkey

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2019/09/03/us-backed-syrian-kurds-to-remove-fortifications-from-turkish-border-as-part-of-safe-zone-deal/

You made it EVEN EASIER for Turkey to attack them

I'm glad the USA is losing support and influence around the world.

As the world sees America unable to keep its promises, acting like a fool on the world stage, lying, disasterous meddling abroad and abandoning its brothers in arms we can finally watch it die.

@SilentSkies

Why do you have this massive kurd boner? We loaned materiel for them to fight ISIS. They used their manpower. Now ISIS has been defeated, and we took our materiel back.

As if anyone's going to give a fuck if the only countries we lie to (or about) are Lybia and Iran.

Europe is years too late to start bitching now

those are the only coutnries I can concievably agree that we lied to

Turkey and the Kurds are both allies. what is supposed to happen when they attack each other? We have to choose a side. Turkey is a state actor and part of NATO. The Kurds are neither. What do you choose?

Well, they're a state that's slipping back into a sunni sultanate and NATO is obsolete, but still mildly preferable to an unaffiliated band of maybe-communists

guys last time I checked this was u.s. politics you fucking kebabs

This is US politics

unfortunately

yes, and we're discussing what the US should do about its alliances

fuck em'

thats what we should do

because that's all the current and concurrent administrations give a flying fuck about

And you can make the argument that turkey shouldn't be in NATO but they are. at least they have definite territory they can defend

I mean, yes, but since when does our opinion matter

all we're good for are votes

the having territory bit is really what ekes them out over the kurds, tbh

4D chess time: trump could have done this months ago but was saving it to distract from impeachment fight

Doubt

More likely he just needed people like Bolton out of the picture first

still all I have been hearing about is that we have to preserve the ethnic state of kurdistan

because ethnostates are ok now if they aren't in the west