Message from @beatless

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2019-10-09 15:21:50 UTC  

It is, in fact in Japan it's a bigger phenomenon than in the west, I think?

2019-10-09 15:22:26 UTC  

Because they live much more isolated lives, which makes the family the only valid emotional safety net

2019-10-09 15:23:13 UTC  

But it still addresses reconnecting family values. Both japan and america/western nations seem to become insanely individualistic

2019-10-09 15:23:31 UTC  

Yeah

2019-10-09 15:23:53 UTC  

This effect has been predicted by many people already wayyyyy back in the 90's

2019-10-09 15:24:09 UTC  

Maybe that's why socialists keep dreaming up "the commune" when...that stuff is typical rural life/visiting our grandparents stuff

2019-10-09 15:24:27 UTC  

Some people spoke up about the rift that technology was causing in families

2019-10-09 15:25:01 UTC  

Radio and TV made for some family together-time, but gaming consoles and phones do not

2019-10-09 15:25:19 UTC  

The Wii actively tries to change that actually

2019-10-09 15:25:50 UTC  

And D&D is also growing rapidly, showing a need of people to connect

2019-10-09 15:25:51 UTC  

That's an interesting way to look at it

2019-10-09 15:26:15 UTC  

There's Pokemon, which brings people out on the streets

2019-10-09 15:26:17 UTC  

But even without technology it seemed the west just didnt value family as much

2019-10-09 15:26:35 UTC  

Maybe, idk

2019-10-09 15:26:40 UTC  

You call each other by first name basis, from the stereotypes we have

2019-10-09 15:26:45 UTC  

Kids are blaming their parents en masse these days for neglecting them

2019-10-09 15:26:52 UTC  

Just giving them electronic toys instead

2019-10-09 15:27:02 UTC  

Now these kids are grown up themselves ofc

2019-10-09 15:27:07 UTC  

Families are hurt by this

2019-10-09 15:27:49 UTC  

I do believe this plays into the resurgence of conservatism

2019-10-09 15:29:33 UTC  

If I may say. Thing is, the connotation of "conservatism" can be quite negative. I think your leftists equate all conservatives as nothing more than Christians and now, "nationalists" aka patriots

2019-10-09 15:29:53 UTC  

Yeah that could be

2019-10-09 15:29:57 UTC  

I can see that

2019-10-09 15:30:28 UTC  

Even myself before I knew how your parties work, I had to join "the left" in internet circles cause that's where I thought liberty & freedom from religion was

2019-10-09 15:30:51 UTC  

I think elections in the coming decades will be won increasingly more often by family-oriented politicians

2019-10-09 15:31:21 UTC  

There's a craving by the current young generations

2019-10-09 15:31:42 UTC  

The problem is

2019-10-09 15:31:56 UTC  

The moment you mention family as part of your program, you get labeled a conservative, or worse a tradcon

2019-10-09 15:32:10 UTC  

That puts the progressives off

2019-10-09 15:33:09 UTC  

I'm not American btw

2019-10-09 15:33:18 UTC  

Just thought I had to remind you maybe 😄

2019-10-09 15:33:27 UTC  

Also, "conservatives" in my country, and many if not most, tend to make your western conservatives look like dog's toys wrt religion, lack of basic human rights

2019-10-09 15:33:46 UTC  

Yeah I know. But since we're in the US channel..

2019-10-09 15:33:55 UTC  

Ok alright hehe

2019-10-09 15:34:06 UTC  

If ever this isn't supposed to be here we can go elsewhere

2019-10-09 15:34:47 UTC  

I think it's fine, this concerns the west as a whole, but whatever

2019-10-09 15:35:21 UTC  

And yeah definitely there are clear differences between different nations

2019-10-09 15:35:34 UTC  

Conservatives in Austria for example aren't even that controversial

2019-10-09 15:36:13 UTC  

We're not at all divided on environment, religion, war, for example

2019-10-09 15:36:38 UTC  

If to be a "progressive" means to leave your kid to limpwristed parenting, they can suck each other's dicks

2019-10-09 15:36:49 UTC  

It's mostly about racism and economy