Message from @beatless

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2019-10-09 16:21:36 UTC  

But the "private" industry is bound by law to serve the state's demands. Which is basically how it worked in Germany.

2019-10-09 16:21:51 UTC  

though not too big, those ones are the politicians bosses

2019-10-09 16:21:53 UTC  

So fascism

2019-10-09 16:21:57 UTC  

not that i'm aware of

2019-10-09 16:23:16 UTC  

well in germany the fuhrer formally had absolute authority over all facets of the country

2019-10-09 16:23:50 UTC  

though legally firms weren't necessarily obligated to serve the state's demands and the freedom of contract was generally respected

2019-10-09 16:29:25 UTC  

"Freedom of contract" with the understanding that at any time they wished the state could and would seize your business.....

2019-10-09 16:29:47 UTC  

yeah

2019-10-09 16:29:49 UTC  

Same as China

2019-10-09 16:31:42 UTC  

Tbh in theory the "state" capitalism of venezuela, china and germany seems the same to me, except for the degree of how much political-class elites there are

2019-10-09 16:34:47 UTC  

china and germany are more similar to eachother than either are to venezuela i think

2019-10-09 16:36:57 UTC  

Venezuela has less politician/military-elites, but regardless in such nations the state owns/controls/gets any business that goes against their vision

2019-10-09 16:39:17 UTC  

Much more authoritarian too. If they had more persons rubbing shoulders with Maduro and he let more politicians "own"/take control of the industries, it can look like china.

2019-10-09 16:39:58 UTC  

There is some freedom to china/germany. But it's still easily taken by the government

2019-10-09 16:40:03 UTC  

looking more like china would be a big improvement over what they have now

2019-10-09 16:41:10 UTC  

Like china wrt economic, ethnic or big government?

2019-10-09 16:45:36 UTC  

the economic system

2019-10-09 16:45:59 UTC  

the venezuelan government just attempts to control private enterprise through a web of strangling regulations

2019-10-09 16:47:26 UTC  

Maduro seized all industries. Lots of small business owners were imprisoned for not wanting to give them up

2019-10-09 16:47:51 UTC  

That's why every American company fucking left

2019-10-09 16:48:14 UTC  

Their grocery shelves are full of one-brand only items/monopoly

2019-10-09 16:48:20 UTC  

that's not true

2019-10-09 16:48:39 UTC  

less of venezuela's economy is state owned than in countries like norway

2019-10-09 16:49:38 UTC  

Only because Venezuela doesn't have an economy right now

2019-10-09 16:49:53 UTC  

it's been that way throughout the entirety of the chavez and maduro administrations

2019-10-09 16:50:53 UTC  

If you want america to be economically like china, u have to make your people do the dirty jobs, keep your tech to yourselves & don't let the chicoms study how to make them in your very own universities/phds and/or reverse engineer them

2019-10-09 16:51:58 UTC  

Produce them in america so they don't steal your IP

2019-10-09 17:51:15 UTC  

Better than aoc

2019-10-09 17:55:58 UTC  

Mommy Tulsi

2019-10-09 18:07:58 UTC  

The kurds were never friends

2019-10-09 18:23:18 UTC  

We should completely withdraw from Syria

2019-10-09 18:23:31 UTC  

Wait but northern Syria borders Turkey

2019-10-09 18:23:53 UTC  

Ya we should not completely withdraw. Last time we did that we got isis

2019-10-09 18:24:44 UTC  

Even if Isis did come back if we had completely withdrawn then they would have no reason to bother us

2019-10-09 18:24:55 UTC  

They would find one