That's just wrong

or a lie

How so?

You fucked them, they're leaving you.

Simple as.

With the way the world's going, with practically a lot of the non-west hating America (aside from self-hating westerners), they seem to think they'll be better off with the russians or the chicoms

Nah russia foots prolly been in the door for more than a decade

US is enormously economically powerful, and the EU also has some economic pull

The US and EU which are growing apart.

if EU&US wanted, they could do a lot of economic damage

The EU and US are advosaries..

The US already has sanctions on Turkey

Lol

It also has them on noko

Noko?

north korea. Some sanctions aren't like the oters

*others

They won't be better off with them @beatless

I didn’t think turkey was allowed to raise and army

Yes, it has sanctions on enemies..

Your point being?

Think again ;P @RAM II

They have one of the largest in NATO @RAM II

And they're modernizing it

How is turkey in nato

They used to be a decent state

US also has tariffs on allies, you tard

Until Erdoğan

They don’t even touch the Atlantic

Turkey has the second largest military in NATO.

They were useful against the Soviet Union @RAM II

They're still useful against Russia

So was osama binladin

Now they have a despotic leader, looking to expand

They're aligning themselves with Russia, silly

This is what I've been saying @leavethisbotnet

They're shifting from you, to Russia.

or at the _very least_ it would be quite useful if they were at worst neutral

Purchase of S400, Turkish-Russian oil pipeline, Russian investments in Turkey, Turkish removal of Russia as an 'enemy'

Therein lies the problem. We built the international system to fight the cold war. We get nothing out of maintaining it now.

I know, but you'd be surprised at how many countries here are stupid & would blame america for everything. Typically "majority" of the population (from 30%-70%) suddenly outcry demanding america leave for our new overlords russia/china w/e @Nathan James 123