Dardanelles are also beneficial.

there are more reasons than just whether Kurds are useful or not

Turkey being an adversary (Soon to be enemy) and the isolationists being idiots

The Turks are gone buddy @leavethisbotnet

Too late for that.

Turkey absolutely does not want to be _enemy_
They want to play both sides

and they openly say so

If your gonna say your doing something especially as a nation don’t stop before your finished aka wipe after you shit

They gain nothing from being aligned with the USA, but gain by being with the Russians.

So that's what they'll do.

They're already moving towards the Russian sphere.

That's just wrong

or a lie

How so?

You fucked them, they're leaving you.

Simple as.

With the way the world's going, with practically a lot of the non-west hating America (aside from self-hating westerners), they seem to think they'll be better off with the russians or the chicoms

Nah russia foots prolly been in the door for more than a decade

US is enormously economically powerful, and the EU also has some economic pull

The US and EU which are growing apart.

if EU&US wanted, they could do a lot of economic damage

The EU and US are advosaries..

The US already has sanctions on Turkey

Lol

It also has them on noko

Noko?

north korea. Some sanctions aren't like the oters

*others

They won't be better off with them @beatless

I didn’t think turkey was allowed to raise and army

Yes, it has sanctions on enemies..

Your point being?

Think again ;P @RAM II

They have one of the largest in NATO @RAM II

And they're modernizing it

How is turkey in nato

They used to be a decent state

US also has tariffs on allies, you tard

Until Erdoğan

They don’t even touch the Atlantic

Turkey has the second largest military in NATO.