Why is that, Leo?

Obvious bait is obvious.

Indeed.

How is that bait?

Being racially subsumed is not a good modus operandi

Well, GD, some people come from nations who require centralized economic and social planning abroad, so their governments can benefit from the manipulation of oil supply.

Little do they know, decentralization at home would lead to a flourishing and diversified economy, perfectly able to satisfy all their needs, without interfering in the affairs of others.

Indeed.

This is one reason why factory farming is actually a really bad idea.

Take the Russians, for example, or other Eastern European States.

Indeed.

The environmentalists, bless 'em, have always had this one foible: they tend to see problems through their ideological lens. They don't realize there are other reasons, other arguments to be made, to limit the kinds of things that cause so much damn pollution. They hate coal, but they also hate nuclear, and at the same time fail to understand there are other avenues of attack when it comes to convincing people to go green.

farage's LBC interview with one of their spokespeople was interesting

https://youtu.be/YbsUYhCCQ6k?t=3734

They also don't suggest farming moss or phytoplankton, despite the fact we know that'd be the best route. There are other causes, than human pollution, for the anomalous levels of atmospheric carbon and declines in oxygen content, @Goodwood of Dank™. With a decline in the population of the plankton, which once produced over 70% of the world's atmospheric oxygen content, to 40%, you couldn't make up for this by planting a tree on every square foot of land on the planet.

This is true.

They also seem to forget, or never understood, that the best solutions will always be bottom-up.

melt the icecaps tbh

i want london flooded

You can also correlate a trend in their decline with layers of ash, spewed by volcanic eruptions, built up in the atmosphere, which interestingly continue to be a problem decades after the fact. The reason for this is the slightest decline in sunlight reaching their levels of the ocean causes them to be starved of the nutrients they require, @Goodwood of Dank™.

Exactly, GD.

But, as you see, irrational panicking never resolves anything to satisfaction.

The icecaps melting have nothing to do with sea-level rise, Leo.

Yeah. Sun cycles are a thing. As I've said elsewhere on this server, there is evidence to support a hypothesis that, were it not for the industrial revolution, the Little Ice Age could've become a full-blown Ice Age.

What's actually causing the sea-level to rise is h2o molecules expand as they increase in temperature.

The Arctic ice cap does not. The melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice caps, on the other hand, do.

Thus, it isn't additional molecules introduced to the ocean causing the rise, it is rather the expansion of the molecules themselves.

It's because they are on top of land masses.

Antarctica is a continent, not an ice cube.

Greenland is an island, not an ice cube.

Indeed.

In any case, London is too high to get flooded, even if all surface ice melted.

^

Rivers exist above sea level.

america is fucked though

I want London to flood

CO2, with 2 bonds, traps about 24,000 times less energy than Sulfur hexafluoride (SF6), which has 6 bonds, accounting for about .2% of energy trapped in the atmosphere. However, H2O, also a double-bond like CO2, traps in about 72% of all energy due to the amount of it in the atmosphere. Now, that stumps your most ardent Climate Change activist.

@Goodwood of Dank™

Time to ban water!

Ban hydrogen dioxide!

Fuck.