I mean, pre modern freedom is always pretty limited, but ability to choose life paths is the most notable difference. Most of the nobility was recruited for most dynasties. Furthermore physical mobility was far more tolerated, as in walking/riding to a different area, which was illegal for many in feudal Europe/Russia.

Which was illegal because you were going into a different country, sure.

Movement was fine because of the massive scale of China

No I mean In the same country

the way china governs now is very similar to how they governed under the philosophy of legalism back in 400-200~ bc

England was better than most, but most people legally were barred from leaving their home towns except if they were drafted/given specific permission from their local lord. It was like this from the late Roman period to the middle enlightenment

Anyway, it's been a VERY long time since the Chinese have had privileges like they do now

So they don't really care

Not really, you could make a case for the quin dynasty being better for them, or even the civil war

was this true when china was feudal

I guess really... it comes down to whether or not you think sacrificing things for a national identity or national purpose is a good thing or not....

china moved past feudalism long before the west did

The entire CCPs plan is to renew the 'Chinese identity'

If by renew you mean destroy and replace

Then sure

Yep

right and thats what im getting at... is that the gov in china thinks that the chinese people sacrificing certain things for the national identity/national purpose of china is a good thing for their people as a whole

for their future generations. and also they like power

and many of the chinese also agree with this

Liberalism... liberal democracies... they sort of invert that idea. Positing that personal sovereignty/freedom is far more important then any proposed national purpose/identity

chinese agree with the CCP due to constant propaganda that starts at birth

The chinese would laugh at the later... and say "you mean becoming a multi-cultural society like yours? Because thats turning out so great isnt it? You guys cant even leave the EU <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586> "

And their culture is different

But so what?

what about Taiwan. how's that situation going to pan out

Hard to say

I'm not a cultural relativist, the modern Chinese culture sucks

China will likely bring them into their sphere

Through covert actions

Then again, I'm not sure

Taiwan is something like 95% stay independent

With like 4% saying they should retake china.

Their opinion of china ranges from negative to mixed

hmm idk... once the spirit of personal freedom is ignited in a society... its very very difficult to turn it around

Easily done through indoctrination from birth

right but you have to get to that point though... to begin with

and parents arent going to do that if they themselves also believe in personal freedom

Those that support the CCP can be given help from the mainland

So even if the taiwanese government was subverted by china

So they rise in the political system

the people would resist