Message from @LockJack

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2019-04-09 12:06:02 UTC  

People in czechiaslovakia fought for council communism, which Khrushchev crushed

2019-04-09 12:07:06 UTC  

It but we aren’t taking about Khrushchev are we?

2019-04-09 12:07:06 UTC  

Romania was also a fascist state

2019-04-09 12:07:12 UTC  

Yes it was

2019-04-09 12:07:18 UTC  

As was Poland

2019-04-09 12:07:23 UTC  

No

2019-04-09 12:07:29 UTC  

As was most of Eastern Europe

2019-04-09 12:07:36 UTC  

Poland was a authoritarian state

2019-04-09 12:07:40 UTC  

Including Bulgaria

2019-04-09 12:07:43 UTC  

Not a fascist one

2019-04-09 12:07:47 UTC  

Under nazis it was fascist

2019-04-09 12:07:54 UTC  

Bulgaria was, I agree

2019-04-09 12:08:07 UTC  

Fascism forced upon Yugoslavia as well

2019-04-09 12:08:22 UTC  

Ustase and Cetnik forces

2019-04-09 12:08:39 UTC  

That was until, Marshall Tito, a communist, pushed them out

2019-04-09 12:08:55 UTC  

That’s because Yugoslavia allied with the west

2019-04-09 12:09:09 UTC  

And before we go on let's discuss the basics of communism

2019-04-09 12:09:19 UTC  

Communism is a stateless, moneyless and classless society

2019-04-09 12:09:34 UTC  

What these states were is called socialism, the stage in which is before communism

2019-04-09 12:09:50 UTC  

Anarchism is when you skip the stage of socialism and move straight to communism

2019-04-09 12:10:32 UTC  

I know these things

2019-04-09 12:10:41 UTC  

I used to be a communist myself

2019-04-09 12:10:46 UTC  

These countries had communist parties in control, which end goal was to reach communism and wither away the state, the threat of imperialism made it not such

2019-04-09 12:11:58 UTC  

The Soviet Union wasn’t imperialist at all huh? Afghanistan deserved it am I right?

2019-04-09 12:12:18 UTC  

You'd call that imperialism?

2019-04-09 12:12:36 UTC  

Helping revolutions by the afghani people against their shit government imperialism?

2019-04-09 12:12:37 UTC  

I’d call it a senseless invasion

2019-04-09 12:13:33 UTC  
2019-04-09 12:14:30 UTC  

All those Mujahideen fighters that wanted communism so much...

2019-04-09 12:15:10 UTC  

You mean terrorists that the USA is currently fighting?

2019-04-09 12:15:23 UTC  

And it was a highly religious country. Why would they advocate for communism?

2019-04-09 12:15:24 UTC  

In which they armed and they used the weapons against them 😂

2019-04-09 12:15:34 UTC  

Have you heard of feudal socialism?

2019-04-09 12:16:03 UTC  

The Mujahideen was a group that was intended to free Afghanistan from Soviet occupation

2019-04-09 12:16:15 UTC  

Similar to communists partisans

2019-04-09 12:16:19 UTC  

In ww2

2019-04-09 12:16:19 UTC  

And I can't really defend the ussr after stalin, considering the party was purged of communists and filled with technocrats, idealists and other revisionists

2019-04-09 12:17:09 UTC  

And there's a Naxalite Insurgency in India fighting against their government, what's your point?

2019-04-09 12:17:45 UTC  

As well as communist uprisings including the "red scare" in the west

2019-04-09 12:18:16 UTC  

India wasn’t occupied with Soviet troops was it?

2019-04-09 12:18:24 UTC  

Afghanistan was