Message from @LockJack

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2019-04-09 12:48:32 UTC  

These are very difficult to start up

2019-04-09 12:48:43 UTC  

Yes, in a capitalist society

2019-04-09 12:48:54 UTC  

Considering the workers don't have the capital that a bourgeois would

2019-04-09 12:48:58 UTC  

Usually investors invest in shares to start a company

2019-04-09 12:49:19 UTC  

Are you familiar with Anarcho syndicalism?

2019-04-09 12:49:44 UTC  

You may be more sympathetic to national syndicalism

2019-04-09 12:49:46 UTC  

The workers don’t have the Capital to create a business from scratch

2019-04-09 12:50:08 UTC  

Yes, due to living under the capitalist system in which it forced you to

2019-04-09 12:50:15 UTC  

I don’t like Syndicalism

2019-04-09 12:50:30 UTC  

It gives government control to unions

2019-04-09 12:50:53 UTC  

The last thing I would want is a Union running government

2019-04-09 12:51:07 UTC  

Where I live Unions have a history of corruption

2019-04-09 12:51:39 UTC  

Much more than government ever did

2019-04-09 12:52:37 UTC  

Yeah, unions have become more corrupt

2019-04-09 12:52:49 UTC  

Mostly due to government infiltration

2019-04-09 12:53:26 UTC  

The Industrial Workers of the World hasn't been corrupted, luckily

2019-04-09 12:53:29 UTC  

I don’t think corruption is a measure of government

2019-04-09 12:53:54 UTC  

Corruption can also be a measure of class infiltration too

2019-04-09 12:54:02 UTC  

Such as letting your boss into the union

2019-04-09 12:54:04 UTC  

I think that the Workers of the World have been corrupted by a multitude of factors

2019-04-09 12:54:30 UTC  

Less so by unions, and more so by society itself

2019-04-09 12:55:31 UTC  

The IWW’s structure makes it a lot more difficult to be infiltrated, though feds can join and go to the meetings it’s comical that they would be able to take it over like a political party

2019-04-09 12:56:19 UTC  

Though it’s a serious issue, the feds struggle to take over unions in the same way, and it’s a lot easier for them to be discredited rather than hijacked

2019-04-09 12:57:08 UTC  

True. In the modern age less and less people join unions

2019-04-09 12:57:38 UTC  

They rely on government for the support that unions would have given 50 years ago

2019-04-09 12:57:39 UTC  

Unions first started out where a bunch of workers in the factory would band together and all strike on the same day

2019-04-09 12:57:48 UTC  

Yeah

2019-04-09 12:57:51 UTC  

Other factory workplaces would get involved too

2019-04-09 12:58:10 UTC  

Soon, to survive in a capitalists system, you now need to pay to join the union

2019-04-09 12:58:19 UTC  

And they would Poole their money to create an organisation

2019-04-09 12:58:25 UTC  

Become more like a business than a helpful guide

2019-04-09 12:59:01 UTC  

Think the capitalist system in the West is limited by government intervention

2019-04-09 12:59:21 UTC  

The state is used as a tool to protect class interests

2019-04-09 12:59:22 UTC  

Hey do you want to talk in “International voice chat”?

2019-04-09 12:59:30 UTC  

Don't have a mic

2019-04-09 12:59:30 UTC  

Would be much easier

2019-04-09 12:59:34 UTC  

Oh ok

2019-04-09 13:00:11 UTC  

And also did you want to join the discord I was shilling for earlier?

2019-04-09 13:00:35 UTC  

Lots of nazis in this server already, but yeah ok

2019-04-09 13:01:27 UTC  

Nice

2019-04-09 13:02:29 UTC  

I’m sending a friend request