Message from @LockJack

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2019-04-09 12:44:07 UTC  

No he didn’t

2019-04-09 12:44:11 UTC  

You’re right

2019-04-09 12:44:20 UTC  

You mean a labour aristocracy?

2019-04-09 12:44:39 UTC  

No just the aristocracy

2019-04-09 12:45:07 UTC  

Strasser wanted to combine corporations with trade unions

2019-04-09 12:45:12 UTC  

Just as how gentile did

2019-04-09 12:45:23 UTC  

Hitler definitely did not even plan for doing this

2019-04-09 12:46:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/565155460877910017/image0.jpg

2019-04-09 12:46:03 UTC  

That’s because it would be a mistake. If the Corporation controls the trade union. Then what’s the point?

2019-04-09 12:46:16 UTC  

I think Mussolini did it

2019-04-09 12:46:32 UTC  

I don't know enough about the theory to talk about it much further

2019-04-09 12:47:04 UTC  

Yeah Mussolini did do something along those lines, but I think it was wrong

2019-04-09 12:47:31 UTC  

The Nation should control Unions

2019-04-09 12:47:46 UTC  

To make sure companies are made accountable

2019-04-09 12:48:01 UTC  

How about instead the workers themselves run the companies

2019-04-09 12:48:06 UTC  

Like a cooperative

2019-04-09 12:48:32 UTC  

These are very difficult to start up

2019-04-09 12:48:43 UTC  

Yes, in a capitalist society

2019-04-09 12:48:54 UTC  

Considering the workers don't have the capital that a bourgeois would

2019-04-09 12:48:58 UTC  

Usually investors invest in shares to start a company

2019-04-09 12:49:19 UTC  

Are you familiar with Anarcho syndicalism?

2019-04-09 12:49:44 UTC  

You may be more sympathetic to national syndicalism

2019-04-09 12:49:46 UTC  

The workers don’t have the Capital to create a business from scratch

2019-04-09 12:50:08 UTC  

Yes, due to living under the capitalist system in which it forced you to

2019-04-09 12:50:15 UTC  

I don’t like Syndicalism

2019-04-09 12:50:30 UTC  

It gives government control to unions

2019-04-09 12:50:53 UTC  

The last thing I would want is a Union running government

2019-04-09 12:51:07 UTC  

Where I live Unions have a history of corruption

2019-04-09 12:51:39 UTC  

Much more than government ever did

2019-04-09 12:52:37 UTC  

Yeah, unions have become more corrupt

2019-04-09 12:52:49 UTC  

Mostly due to government infiltration

2019-04-09 12:53:26 UTC  

The Industrial Workers of the World hasn't been corrupted, luckily

2019-04-09 12:53:29 UTC  

I don’t think corruption is a measure of government

2019-04-09 12:53:54 UTC  

Corruption can also be a measure of class infiltration too

2019-04-09 12:54:02 UTC  

Such as letting your boss into the union

2019-04-09 12:54:04 UTC  

I think that the Workers of the World have been corrupted by a multitude of factors

2019-04-09 12:54:30 UTC  

Less so by unions, and more so by society itself

2019-04-09 12:55:31 UTC  

The IWW’s structure makes it a lot more difficult to be infiltrated, though feds can join and go to the meetings it’s comical that they would be able to take it over like a political party

2019-04-09 12:56:19 UTC  

Though it’s a serious issue, the feds struggle to take over unions in the same way, and it’s a lot easier for them to be discredited rather than hijacked

2019-04-09 12:57:08 UTC  

True. In the modern age less and less people join unions