Message from @Lehi Avraham Stern
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general intelligence yes
even so, there is no universally accepted way to quantify it
and what does that prove?
^ i kind of disagree with this too though.
I think it's generally useless to try to prove a measure of intelligence, trying to say "THERE CAN BE INTELLIGENCE ITS A TANGIBLE AND MEASURABLE THING" is a losing argument
you can't prove it
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all this started because you said that black peoples lower intelligence contributes to poor behavior which leads to mistreatment during police interactions
and even thats a lie when you look at studies
@Cantwell what is intelligence in a person with various mental deficiencies
black people are several times more likely to be stopped and searched for example, despite being less likely to have contraband
It is the composite score of their different scores on various IQ subtests
@Cantwell no i'm asking you not in comparison with a regular population but instead in their ability to be "intelligent" in spite of those mental deficiencies
what is intelligence in that situation
It depends what mental defieincies you're talking about
why does it depend on them, they are mental deficiencies that make it harder to think, operate, and to retain information
Like what?
or if intelligence is simply a factor of a mental capacity, i'm a intelligent if I have the ability to think and operate beyond the capabilities of any other human but do not have the linguistic and social capability to communicate or even rectify these ideas and develop them further
@Cantwell it doesn't matter "like what" the point is that they are a lot more incapable than a normal person to operate on their evel
That can be true
That isn't likely but it can happen
ok than intelligence isn't what "IQ" is, due to it's incapability to take account of those factors, which immediately makes intelligence multifaceted in it's appearance.
If the former is true why can't we apply that to any tribal in 50,000 BCE where they didn't have those linguistic or social structures for that
Wait you're saying the highly intelligennt person wouldn't be able to use language?
so yeah point is, iq has nothing to do with the worse treatments blacks recieve during police interactions
How?
what do you mean how?
@Cantwell i didn't say that at all, I said that a incapability to apply certain linguistic structures and words in place to COMMUNICATE those ideas affectively
that doesn't mean they can't use that language
but that they might not be able to think outside those mind shaping concepts
at least not to the point where they can communicate their ideas
That generally doesn't happen outside of extremely high IQ people
Communication has nothing to do with IQ though
that's the point though and it's more than communication, it's that IQ can't account for those factors that have always been historically important for technological advancement
IQ is very important to technological advancement
also linguistic incapability
or underdeveloped languages and linguistic capability is very important factors in why neolithic humans weren't super geniuses that caused the space age to happen in their 30 year life time.
and IQ isn't important to technological advancement historically or now, I think it's ludicrous to suggest that IQ has measured why technological advancement happened.
Genetics haven
't determined those thigns.
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