Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-17 21:12:06 UTC  

khruschev making fake the cult of personality, disarming the people, peaceful coexistence

2017-05-17 21:12:26 UTC  

and Gorbachov restorating capitalism with the perestroika

2017-05-17 21:12:41 UTC  

restoration of capitalism began a lot earlier than gorbachev

2017-05-17 21:12:42 UTC  

intentional or not it is

2017-05-17 21:12:44 UTC  

@Blebleh how it makes Brezhnev imperialist?

2017-05-17 21:12:47 UTC  

gorvachevs perestroika was just a final phase

2017-05-17 21:12:57 UTC  

Unintentionally imperialist?

2017-05-17 21:14:31 UTC  

with the new policies

2017-05-17 21:14:47 UTC  

they made the monopolist capitalism arise

2017-05-17 21:14:59 UTC  

depending on a bourgeois oligarchy

2017-05-17 21:15:19 UTC  

@Blebleh Capitalists make communism arise with their policies. Are they communist?

2017-05-17 21:15:28 UTC  

now just a national bourgeoisie more like China

2017-05-17 21:16:02 UTC  

Capitalists don't make communism arise, they make their own gravediggers, the proletariat

2017-05-17 21:16:24 UTC  

going a step backward when the planned economy is already built is treason

2017-05-17 21:16:30 UTC  

@Blebleh I've heard capitalism brings us to socialism.

2017-05-17 21:16:53 UTC  

But people need class consciousness first

2017-05-17 21:16:57 UTC  

and political organization

2017-05-17 21:17:10 UTC  

@Blebleh Treason by a man who gave his life for communism countless times?

2017-05-17 21:17:32 UTC  

@Blebleh I'm speaking of the objective side.

2017-05-17 21:17:42 UTC  

that doesn't matter; it lead to the restoration

2017-05-17 21:17:47 UTC  

no matter how he felt before

2017-05-17 21:18:18 UTC  

@Blebleh I first ask you to give your life for communism, before saying it doesn't matter

2017-05-17 21:18:51 UTC  

Its not the easy thing to do

2017-05-17 21:19:24 UTC  

Most critics never will do it

2017-05-17 21:20:19 UTC  

It's easy to criticize from your basement.

2017-05-17 21:20:31 UTC  

it isn't related to how he wasn't revisionist

2017-05-17 21:20:46 UTC  

a socdem can have a good heart

2017-05-17 21:20:52 UTC  

@Blebleh I stated 3 times already that he was.

2017-05-17 21:21:29 UTC  

yes, and why are you telling me that it's easy to criticize?

2017-05-17 21:21:44 UTC  

@Blebleh Because you claim he is imperialist.

2017-05-17 21:22:42 UTC  

I agree on revisionism.

2017-05-17 21:23:12 UTC  

that revisionism pulled imperialism

2017-05-17 21:23:23 UTC  

Everything pulls everything

2017-05-17 21:23:47 UTC  

no, if the party kept the socialist line

2017-05-17 21:23:55 UTC  

they wouldn't have been imperialist

2017-05-17 21:24:06 UTC  

@Blebleh The Party was dead after Stalin.

2017-05-17 21:24:28 UTC  

But it doesn't make a socialist country imperialist

2017-05-17 21:25:51 UTC  

Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism

2017-05-17 21:26:07 UTC  

the policies from the party pulled monopolist capitalism

2017-05-17 21:26:28 UTC  

it doesn't matter if they had good heart... imperialism depends on the economy

2017-05-17 21:27:21 UTC  

@Blebleh Imperialism is subjective on top of economical basis. Economy and subjective force maybe different at the same time.