Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-17 23:17:39 UTC  

yes, again he discovered labour exploitation

2017-05-17 23:17:52 UTC  

@OF-8 If you want to use one word to define Marxism its: "Materialism" - Lenin

2017-05-17 23:17:54 UTC  

Ok now I'm truly struggling.

2017-05-17 23:18:00 UTC  

Holy shit.

2017-05-17 23:18:01 UTC  

Lmfao

2017-05-17 23:18:20 UTC  

Wait. Is this like how women's studies is now a science?

2017-05-17 23:18:25 UTC  

neoclassical economics are idealist pseudoscience, closed models to match the society

2017-05-17 23:18:42 UTC  

Like when we discover an exploitation, bam! New science!

2017-05-17 23:18:47 UTC  

marxism describes capitalism; he didn't propose a clear socialist alternative

2017-05-17 23:18:58 UTC  

that's done by modern marxist economists; planned economy is from Lenin

2017-05-17 23:19:07 UTC  

and it was shaped by Stalin in practice

2017-05-17 23:19:16 UTC  

Bleh, that was legit prescient.

2017-05-17 23:19:26 UTC  

now we have cybernetics to improve supply and demand in real time, in a central planned economy

2017-05-17 23:19:38 UTC  

@OF-8 Marx studies whole society of his time and writes a book called "Capital".

2017-05-17 23:19:40 UTC  

And right back to retard land.

2017-05-17 23:19:53 UTC  

U know much about the technicals of cybernetics?

2017-05-17 23:19:56 UTC  

Because society is defined by Capital

2017-05-17 23:20:07 UTC  

Don't count on that shit being worth a damn in your lifetime.

2017-05-17 23:20:10 UTC  

Allin Cottrel, Paul Cockshott do

2017-05-17 23:20:28 UTC  

Apparently not tho.

2017-05-17 23:20:31 UTC  

also, in Allende's Chile they had a project called Cybersyn

2017-05-17 23:20:41 UTC  

I know this project

2017-05-17 23:20:46 UTC  

Stafford Beer in the 70's wanted to establish a cybernetic system there

2017-05-17 23:21:04 UTC  

My friends and I peed ourselves reading cybersyn docs

2017-05-17 23:21:34 UTC  

maybe, from the 70s

2017-05-17 23:21:36 UTC  

You know tho. I do. I love that you dug that deep

2017-05-17 23:22:01 UTC  

@OF-8 Capital is still there. Believe it or not.

2017-05-17 23:22:02 UTC  

well, when people say that it's an economic dictatorship; I'd point that there are technical improvements

2017-05-17 23:22:48 UTC  

just about every third sycophant I fucked in Silicon Valley said something similar.

2017-05-17 23:23:04 UTC  

well, some leftcoms would disagree with me

2017-05-17 23:23:09 UTC  

"But we got mongodb, so socialism will work this time"

2017-05-17 23:23:11 UTC  

but that's not from marx

2017-05-17 23:23:27 UTC  

It's for socialist proposals, not from the analysis of capitalism

2017-05-17 23:23:29 UTC  

Clearly

2017-05-17 23:23:52 UTC  

If it wasn't based on a shit stack of bad assumptions it'd work

2017-05-17 23:24:10 UTC  

it worked

2017-05-17 23:24:19 UTC  

Mmmhm

2017-05-17 23:24:38 UTC  

Is it working now?

2017-05-17 23:24:41 UTC  

you can read about the improvements in socialist countries