Message from @Blebleh
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Was Lenin on the front line during the skirmishes between the reds and the whites?
yes but the history is done by the masses
there wasn't only a voice too
History is done by those who write, and write do the aristocrats. We then come full circle
no, the masses do the actions; we're materialists
and I said, all for the workers
@Deleted User @Blebleh would be fun to hear both of you in voice chat.
not the bourgeoisie extracting surplus value from the workers
but a planned economy for the workers
There's a fallacy where either you must be in the mob, or in the tower. But in the end the tower doesn't crumble and the mob only settles their implements of harvest
>planned economy
And who plans the economy?
The workers? The people?
yes
Through popular voicing?
soviets
@Deleted User or communist authority.
Authority of the rulers over the mob then
they make surveys and agree on a common program
How does this ensure the workers at all have a say in their fate?
>surveys
>cybernetics
in the USSR the production was directed towards the needs for the war and healthcare for example
life expectancy skyrocketed
the production was being improved over years until the liberal reforms
For an expansive imperium and a docile people
no, the USSR wasn't imperialist
in period of Stalin
Annexing and vassalizing foreign lands is not imperialism?
Or be it colonialism?
which lands?
Eastern Europe and all her peoples, any countries in South America and Africa, promotion of revolutionary movements in Asia and elsewhere
Lenin and Stalin respected the right of nations to self-determination
Would not an emperor subvert his neighbors and colonize foreign barbarians who-do-not-know-the-true-way
they both wrote about it
of course they have to promote revolutionary movements when possible
they're not doing coups, they're helping revolutionaries
Incorporating sovereign nations into a singular unions doesn't sound much like self determination, neither does the suppression of nationalist movements.
@Deleted User inti-imperialism may look like imperialist to an uneducated eye.
Yes I am uneducated because I can see a system for what it is
>helping revolutionaries