Message from @Blebleh

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2017-06-05 05:09:28 UTC  

>tolerating financed opposition

2017-06-05 05:14:58 UTC  

What do you say against the argument that communism is not yet suitable for human nature?

2017-06-05 05:16:37 UTC  

that argument emerges in the view that to make communism people have to be altruist, or that they'll be worse; they won't be able to trade

2017-06-05 05:17:22 UTC  

the workers, who are the majority; would have improvements in their work, healthcare and education; they'd feel less alienated and therefore they would be able to fill their emotions better

2017-06-05 05:17:35 UTC  

so it's more compatible with "human nature"

2017-06-05 05:18:09 UTC  

Bullshit.

2017-06-05 05:18:12 UTC  

if they point out scientific management under in the period of war they have to realize that they needed to speed up the production because they were in the backward compared to other countries

2017-06-05 05:18:21 UTC  

and they needed to do it to win

2017-06-05 05:18:24 UTC  

Pure post-modern bullshit.

2017-06-05 05:18:48 UTC  

hey comrade ❤

2017-06-05 05:18:53 UTC  

Their science can describe a fart as a public utterance of dissent.

2017-06-05 05:19:02 UTC  

Oh hy

2017-06-05 05:21:58 UTC  

that derailed fast

2017-06-05 05:21:59 UTC  

Hello comrades

2017-06-05 05:22:01 UTC  

So human nature, as it is right now, is compatible with communism, and resistance against it stems from ideology that is resistant to this inevitable progress?

2017-06-05 05:22:39 UTC  

human nature isn't compatible, but human nature =/= what is best for all humans

2017-06-05 05:22:53 UTC  

sure Chopin

2017-06-05 05:23:03 UTC  

@𝔊𝔦𝔷𝔪𝔬𝔧𝔦 Where do you measure 'best for all humans'?

2017-06-05 05:23:34 UTC  

@Deleted User sufferring I guess

2017-06-05 05:23:49 UTC  

It is a contradiction to simultaneous prescribe what is best for humans but also want to deny their humanity.

2017-06-05 05:24:08 UTC  

human nature is when the workers are tired and can't work anymore, the people are invaded so they shoot an imperialist and that person bleeds

2017-06-05 05:24:28 UTC  

the solution to all social issues is to make anime free forever

2017-06-05 05:24:38 UTC  

at max quality

2017-06-05 05:25:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/321157454245265409/763bmmxdohcy.jpg

2017-06-05 05:25:09 UTC  

I think capitalism is depressive

2017-06-05 05:25:13 UTC  

Too bad trump already banned it

2017-06-05 05:25:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/321157567051071488/watchinganimeisnowillegal.gif

2017-06-05 05:25:31 UTC  

because people can't feel their work and they don't find a sense to life, they take drugs and go pure carpe diem

2017-06-05 05:25:35 UTC  

I think it's fair to say human nature, is rooted in survival of the fittest, a hierachal nature of strongest-weakest. This doesn't consider human suffering of those who aren' the fittest

2017-06-05 05:26:28 UTC  

@𝔊𝔦𝔷𝔪𝔬𝔧𝔦 I think you underestimate the complexity and nuance involved in natural selection. It is not simply the biggest and strongest that dominate.

2017-06-05 05:26:39 UTC  

@𝔊𝔦𝔷𝔪𝔬𝔧𝔦 Debunked already by Kropotkin in the mutual aid

2017-06-05 05:26:49 UTC  

animals help themselves to evolve too

2017-06-05 05:26:53 UTC  

and just look at the families

2017-06-05 05:27:10 UTC  

Also from my own experience, I'd prefer to cooperate than destroy between ourselves

2017-06-05 05:27:37 UTC  

true

2017-06-05 05:28:06 UTC  

But it's normal that with this configuration people think it's human nature

2017-06-05 05:28:33 UTC  

it's a mode of production and structure pushing it

2017-06-05 05:29:17 UTC  

that said, competition can be fun and outside capitalism

2017-06-05 05:29:40 UTC  

games for example, since you aren't harming anyone really or trying to survive and you do something you like

2017-06-05 05:30:12 UTC  

If people are motivated by feelings of personal security, what is to prevent a resurgence of Fascism in Europe?

2017-06-05 05:30:34 UTC  

Why prevent it