Message from @Normy

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2017-06-05 07:50:59 UTC  

Human beings are innately religious also.

2017-06-05 07:51:21 UTC  

😂

2017-06-05 07:51:29 UTC  

The younger

2017-06-05 07:52:28 UTC  

The older can into since

2017-06-05 07:52:49 UTC  

If Communists have no plan to change humankind, then there is no plan for Communism. Atheism is not a given.

2017-06-05 07:53:49 UTC  

@Deleted User it can be given in a future.

2017-06-05 07:54:45 UTC  

But how will humanity be changed in this way? Religion is as old as humanity.

2017-06-05 07:55:08 UTC  

Genetically if needed.

2017-06-05 07:56:57 UTC  

Will you force humanity to fit into the future Communism?

2017-06-05 07:57:29 UTC  

Yes

2017-06-05 07:57:59 UTC  

So the implication is authoritarianism.

2017-06-05 07:58:18 UTC  

I'm authoritarian.

2017-06-05 07:58:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/321196055616028673/post-35594-0-42384800-1458194706.png

2017-06-05 07:59:40 UTC  

That's quite a radical position. It means that your aims are to be achieved at all costs and it is the highest aim possible.

2017-06-05 07:59:55 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-05 08:00:05 UTC  

It is not my aim.

2017-06-05 08:00:32 UTC  

The matter develops this way.

2017-06-05 08:01:13 UTC  

If it is only matter and deterministic, why does it require your struggle and radical authoritarianism?

2017-06-05 08:02:03 UTC  

Because subjects possess both objective and subjective in them.

2017-06-05 08:02:37 UTC  

Authoritarianism is the reflection of the material deterministic development?

2017-06-05 08:03:16 UTC  

I do not think all authority is good. Only communist.

2017-06-05 08:03:55 UTC  

Then Authoritarian Communism is the manifestation of matter how it develops.

2017-06-05 08:04:23 UTC  

One of the manifestations, yes.

2017-06-05 08:06:32 UTC  

This type of devotion has parallels with religious radicalism also.

2017-06-05 08:07:13 UTC  

But again, you would say, it is not bad because communism is good.

2017-06-05 08:07:34 UTC  

Which type? I have no single believe.

2017-06-05 08:08:25 UTC  

You believe Communism is a kind of Absolute truth? That it will manifest in this world and no one can resist it?

2017-06-05 08:08:40 UTC  

We have to reject every believe.

2017-06-05 08:08:54 UTC  

So then maybe Communism will not happen.

2017-06-05 08:10:02 UTC  

Well, the happening is cased by Imperialism, as it is the last stage of capitalism. What can we do? Can we stop them?

2017-06-05 08:10:17 UTC  

Can we stop capitalism?

2017-06-05 08:11:22 UTC  

If it develops in the same direction it will go to communism pretty soon. First world crises and BOOM

2017-06-05 08:11:25 UTC  

The question is whether Communism is inevitable or not, as a kind of Absolute idea, like a coming Messiah. In that way it is like a religious belief. No matter what, it is thought of as true.

2017-06-05 08:12:14 UTC  

I care about the common property basically.

2017-06-05 08:12:37 UTC  

I don't care anything else.

2017-06-05 08:12:43 UTC  

But will you devote your life to something that is not Absolute? Like the love of your child or something like this?

2017-06-05 08:12:55 UTC  

I want common property for proletariat, yes?

2017-06-05 08:13:22 UTC  

Yes, that is what you want. But how you get there is difficult and full of conflict.

2017-06-05 08:13:37 UTC  

@Deleted User I do not believe in absolute.

2017-06-05 08:14:24 UTC  

@Normy If Communism may or may not happen - it is not Absolute - why should we devote our lives to it?

2017-06-05 08:15:00 UTC  

@Deleted User we don't. We suffer under capitalism and change the system for our liking, yes?