"hey sirotanovic, can you understand me?"

Yep

government get out, want my advice on literature?

Sure

start off with socialism utopian and scientific, the communist manifesto is actually a bad starting book

Why is it a mistake to start with capital?

re-visit the communist manifesto after socialism utopian and scientific

Socialism: Utopian and Scientific?

Who's this by?

@PEWEX it is a mistake because it is an extremely heavy book and going into it without prior understanding often leads people to misconceptions about the book, many of marx's and engel's works cover shit in das capital and are shorter, so they give you a good idea before starting

Socialism utopian and scientific is by Engels

it is 100 pages

Ah

Ah

let me dig up my starting reading list for begginers

Engels was a nice fellow (even if he wasn't so nice to the gay). He was an egoist communist, I think this will help

engels view of gays was a product of his time

Of course

Perfectly understandable

Can't blame the people of the past for being the people of the past

Exactly

I'm sure the stuff we do now will be barbaric one day

Autism or Barbarism?

XD

alright, here is the list:

Maybe one day there will be a way to "cure" gender dysphoria and then sex changes will be barbaric and backwards

Is already very barbaric

U-USSR chan...

For now, however, it's the only real solution given that nothing else works

Thats on her previous statement.

Lol

"I'm sure the stuff we do now will be barbaric one day"

How about

The stuff that we don't consider barbaric

read, in-order: Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, Critique of the Gotha Program, Wage Labour and Capital, The origins of family, private property and the state, The poverty of Philosophy

I concider everything whats going on very barbaric tbh

I would tell you to read Lenin and Stalin as well but I wanted to ask first since you said you were a libsoc

@Firefly for example ?

@PEWEX a worker in a local factory hanged himself because he didn't get paid for 13 months. It was a foreign company, the government did nothing

he was a slave feeding at his workplace because the only food he got was the one offered in work-hour lunches

Yes, and that's barbaric and unacceptable