Message from @MrSally
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The scientists who design a self-improving AI are leftists, undoubtedly, and the self-improving AI would most certainly understand programming that requires that it only follow scientific data.
Zizek has interesting ideas about the future of AI, bio engineering and global government.
Yes, he's a lovely man, and I would love to go to gulag under his bearded Slovenian fist.
I wouldn't underestimate the future of bourgeois ideology over scientists. It is already happening now in the control of grants. I personally know of very talented scientists who left their fields because of this situation.
Everybody says the things he says don't make sense, but I have never had trouble understanding him.
Scientists, who are left, are now motivated by economics.
Yes, but the second the lead comes out that someone is really getting on top of developing a self-improving AI and this time they really know what they are doing, there will be a group of scientists, leftists I believe, who will jump at the opportunity and ensure that the AI only follows reality-based scientifc data.
I think that is all it takes for an AI to understand that left is right and right is anti-science.
how will the right ever recover?
"The leftists programmed the robot with false science"
I mean, isn't what it all boils down to? We now have real-world data showing success in economies that move toward communism no matter how slowly (and yes, I use social democracy as a steppingstone for communism in this idea) so the AI would probably follow that. There is no data supporting the right's ideas on lowering taxes and allowing major corporations to do shady things with money, so it would have to avoid those ideas.
Dialectical-Materialist AI when?
I know, that would be really nice.
In fact, I'm getting this idea about really-redpilling Cleverbot or something. That'd be a sick prank.
@everyone on here should get on Cleverbot or Existor and chat with it about leftist ideology.
@MrSally I am more skeptical. If capital funds AI they will do everything they can to make sure that their ideology is absolute. I agree with the overall prediction towards leftism in the future, but not without nightmarish struggles to get there.
On which programming language and how long you think to do research before making cleverbot?
Yes, it's true.
Though we'll probably be gone before the struggles, having the framework for people to actually fight them would be nice.
I approve of frameworks. We can work hard now to prepare concrete theories for the inevitable struggles ahead.
In fact, if Kurzweil's right we might be immortal by then.
He will die. Transhumanism survives on investments. They are 90% marketing.
Yeah, but I still hold a special place in my heart for it.
It's my own little opiate.
I fear humanity's end, you are too optimistic for its demise. We are opposite but both irrational.
It will be somewhere in the middle.
Nah, I just like the idea of being a cyborg forever and seeing the world change.
Transhumanism is a little overly religious.
That's what we spoke about earlier. Humanity's ego means nothing. Not even stars deserve to survive the future.
I'm just a humanist who clings to material things because it's literally all we have.
I think you just want to live forever, with all the pleasures that it brings.
Indisputably.
Boring.
When I say "cling to material things", I mean my dick.
(not really)
Isn't boring to live forever?
Naaaah.
Not for autists.
I don't see anything boring about it.