Message from @Firefly

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2017-07-18 18:29:54 UTC  

Though, have we?

2017-07-18 18:30:00 UTC  

Yes

2017-07-18 18:30:09 UTC  

Provide examples, please.

2017-07-18 18:31:11 UTC  

Provide examples for your own views, rather.

2017-07-18 18:31:37 UTC  

We came to the point where we as Marxists blame ourselves for USSR failure and the world reaction after studying and understanding our faults.

2017-07-18 18:31:49 UTC  

lol what is this faggot shit, "we know as a fact that the guy thought to live in a realm unbeknown to us doesn't exist"

2017-07-18 18:32:23 UTC  

Though, has Marxism actually gone into play? @Firefly

2017-07-18 18:32:46 UTC  

never successfully, but it's been tried many times

2017-07-18 18:32:50 UTC  

@Deleted User We were an active force in play, yes.

2017-07-18 18:32:53 UTC  

Exactly. @Deleted User

2017-07-18 18:33:11 UTC  

Tell me then, where is there a working society of Marxists?

2017-07-18 18:33:11 UTC  

they also failed to convert most people into atheism

2017-07-18 18:33:19 UTC  

they converted very few successfully tbh

2017-07-18 18:33:27 UTC  

they just killed a bunch of orthodox christians

2017-07-18 18:33:29 UTC  

that's it

2017-07-18 18:33:36 UTC  

@Deleted User Lets keep on topic please.

2017-07-18 18:33:40 UTC  

We are.

2017-07-18 18:33:55 UTC  

I gave you example.

2017-07-18 18:34:00 UTC  

I asked you to present proof that your views work.

2017-07-18 18:34:10 UTC  

No, you gave me an example of a failure.

2017-07-18 18:35:08 UTC  

Wait, I thought you wanted me to show you if we learn from our mistakes and use propaganda for bringing us closer to the truth.

2017-07-18 18:35:33 UTC  

all societies that focused on achieving communism through socialism have been economically, and many societally ruined

2017-07-18 18:35:53 UTC  

Russia is getting back on their feet though

2017-07-18 18:35:55 UTC  

good for them

2017-07-18 18:36:19 UTC  

You haven't even shown us that you have learned from them as you have yet to produce a continuation of the USSR. @Firefly

2017-07-18 18:36:22 UTC  

We do mistakes, we analyze, we use propaganda to spread the result, we become better in truth.

2017-07-18 18:36:42 UTC  

Don't use propaganda to spread the truth.

2017-07-18 18:36:47 UTC  

Use results.

2017-07-18 18:37:11 UTC  

you never shifted in strategy though, unless you mean the differences in Jucheist, Yugoslavian and Unionist communism

2017-07-18 18:37:15 UTC  

@Deleted User That is a very complicated subject. We have a very big articles for that. https://prorivists.wordpress.com/source-of-opportunism/

2017-07-18 18:37:16 UTC  

in which case you would be an idiot

2017-07-18 18:37:23 UTC  

Propaganda is merely a tool to brainwash.

2017-07-18 18:37:28 UTC  

because marxists hate jucheists and chinese and yugoslavian

2017-07-18 18:37:31 UTC  

I'm not reading that, mate.

2017-07-18 18:37:35 UTC  

@Deleted User yes, we shifted the strategy.

2017-07-18 18:38:31 UTC  

Please tell me it in your own words instead of pointing me to a biased article.

2017-07-18 18:38:53 UTC  

It really doesn't seem all too complicated.

2017-07-18 18:39:12 UTC  

The subject of using propaganda, I mean.

2017-07-18 18:39:25 UTC  

Basically the old democratic strategy didn't work. We have to become more authoritarian.

2017-07-18 18:40:07 UTC  

Ah yes, become more authoritarian and refuse the people's will.

2017-07-18 18:40:19 UTC  

Good on ye, mate.