Message from @Horse Shmeat

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2017-07-18 22:59:44 UTC  

Currency is something you trade for commodities. Vouchers are fiat traded for commodities

2017-07-18 22:59:56 UTC  

There is n o accumulation

2017-07-18 23:00:02 UTC  

@Horse Shmeat So you get the money in return/

2017-07-18 23:00:08 UTC  

for working

2017-07-18 23:00:13 UTC  

There's still trade, they represent worth in exchange for commodites

2017-07-18 23:00:20 UTC  

Kind of like how a cashier will give you the excess money back?

2017-07-18 23:00:26 UTC  

Don't need the stores to trade them for it to be a currency

2017-07-18 23:00:36 UTC  

It is still currency even if you say there is no accumulation.

2017-07-18 23:00:37 UTC  

you're not trading anything

2017-07-18 23:00:42 UTC  

with the worker

2017-07-18 23:00:47 UTC  

nobody accumulates money

2017-07-18 23:00:50 UTC  

Yes you are, you trade labor for voucher and voucher for commodity

2017-07-18 23:01:06 UTC  

so what does the storekeeper get in return?

2017-07-18 23:01:08 UTC  

You don't accumulate sure but there's a trade

2017-07-18 23:01:16 UTC  

they don't accumulate the fucking voucher

2017-07-18 23:01:16 UTC  

The shopkeeper is given vouchers for performing his duty

2017-07-18 23:01:25 UTC  

Which he trades himself for commodities

2017-07-18 23:01:35 UTC  

they don't use your vouchers you turned in

2017-07-18 23:01:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337006027415355392/Screenshot_140.png

2017-07-18 23:01:42 UTC  

They don't need to

2017-07-18 23:01:49 UTC  

nobody owes anyone anything

2017-07-18 23:02:07 UTC  

>A current medium of exchange in the form of coins or notes

2017-07-18 23:02:27 UTC  

>Payment for work

2017-07-18 23:02:38 UTC  

Your labor vouchers are money

2017-07-18 23:02:39 UTC  

The people up top owe you what you need

2017-07-18 23:02:46 UTC  

And you owe them what you can do

2017-07-18 23:03:24 UTC  

@Horse Shmeat Hey, I have a system for our commune, I call it labor tokens, you get them for doing services, and you use them when you acquire or use services.

2017-07-18 23:03:49 UTC  

You can also use them to acquire food and water, as well as for trade.

2017-07-18 23:03:51 UTC  

nobody gains labor vouchers you put in 🅱

2017-07-18 23:04:05 UTC  

It's that you no longer have vouchers and the store doesn't own the vouchers

2017-07-18 23:04:18 UTC  

needs to survive are distributed equally

2017-07-18 23:04:24 UTC  

@Horse Shmeat You keep pussy footing around, it does not matter whether or not the shop keeper keeps the vouchers or not, it is still currency.

2017-07-18 23:04:24 UTC  

Of course you don't own the voucher

2017-07-18 23:04:28 UTC  

you can accumulate money

2017-07-18 23:04:39 UTC  

you don't get anything for yourself from the exchange

2017-07-18 23:04:48 UTC  

You don't need to accumulate it for it to be money

2017-07-18 23:04:52 UTC  

it has a similar function for universal equivalence

2017-07-18 23:04:56 UTC  

The US government actually owns all forms of money that they print out and can recall them if they want to.

2017-07-18 23:05:05 UTC  

You GAIN money

2017-07-18 23:05:08 UTC  

So what makes it different from your currency?

2017-07-18 23:05:13 UTC  

you don't get vouchers off of other people