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@LeftSide#6229 That is the issue with social democracy, it almost always ends up in a tyranical state that is torn apart by civil war or war in general.
@Deleted User yeah. The idea is not so bad, but in the practice every fucking left-wing will end up as a dictator.
Because the world economy is inherently capitalistic and as such any left wing power tends to autocracy to keep power.
Which is why social democracy is being looked at alot
Since it operates within capitalism
Yet it cannot sustain itself for a long time without taking away civil rights and becoming tyranical in order not to be destroyed by it's own population.
Well, I'm Antifa and Antico... so... I like to keep the things really balanced
In that sense I think Trotsky was right in saying socialism needs to be universal
Good luck with that.
Socialism will never be global.
Let it happen in China first.
China is capitalist, even if the so called communist party would say otherwise.
我们会做
Do you guys think that the Pink Lobby is real?
What is that?
No China has a mixed economy. It is not inherently capitalist.
True, but it is entirely dependant on capitalism to sustain itself.
It has a capitalist basis
All land property is owned by the state. Not very capitalist.
Consistent with Mao for future bourgeois holocaust.
The only thing keeping china afloat at the moment is oil and rare metals, which they use to produce cheap plastics and electronics, without them, the chinese economy collapses.
Capitalism will be the means of China's implementation of Socialism.
This was Mao's philosophy
@Deleted User If China collapses everybody collapse.
Yes, because being dependant on the sauds for their resources and then gaining a crippling debt is truly what mao envisioned.
Le advanced capitalism will bring us to socialism meme
Wow denying the benefits of capitalism
@Deleted User isn't it the idea of Marx?
Yes
that's new
An idea he was fundamentally wrong about
@Deleted User Lenin would agree.
Communist uprisings happened in agrarian backward countries, not in highly industrialized european countries
Lenin is rolling in his grave with what modern leftism has become.
Youre backward.
@Deleted User did you see modern leftiests outside of USA?
>wow denying the benefits of capitalism
Well my goy, National Socialists aren't too keen on capitalism, for entirely different reasons than yours though