Message from @Slavic Ubermensh

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2017-08-12 05:16:25 UTC  

The pope called them to be defensive.

2017-08-12 05:16:28 UTC  

I guess to an extent the Crusades were defensive

2017-08-12 05:16:32 UTC  

at least the first two

2017-08-12 05:16:39 UTC  

Islam invaded Christian land.

2017-08-12 05:16:46 UTC  

After that it just got outrageous and out of hand

2017-08-12 05:16:56 UTC  

Yeah the first Crusade was good

2017-08-12 05:16:58 UTC  

The rest were

2017-08-12 05:17:03 UTC  

Because Islam is superior. Christian just rolls over and says fuck me daddy.

2017-08-12 05:17:03 UTC  

mistakes.

2017-08-12 05:17:13 UTC  

That had little to do with christanity.

2017-08-12 05:17:25 UTC  

and were just ambitious peasants.

2017-08-12 05:17:28 UTC  

crusades themselves had little to do with christianity

2017-08-12 05:17:33 UTC  

Well, at first they conquered the Holy Land then the Crusaders were like 'we can't have that' and centuries of getting their asses handed to them ensued

2017-08-12 05:17:56 UTC  

@ego_sum_jeffum
@Deleted User
Crusades were in response to the southern war religion encroaching. They were offensive but were well justified.
What WASN'T justified were the instances of pillaging like the sack of Constantinople during the fourth(?) crusade. They sacked their own religious bretheren because the leaders of the crusade from Venice had it out for the Byzantines

2017-08-12 05:18:01 UTC  

Most wars are never for religion, but for political power. They just use religion as a means of convincing people to support said war.

2017-08-12 05:18:03 UTC  

**MY WILL TO LIVE IS DECREASING**

2017-08-12 05:18:22 UTC  
2017-08-12 05:18:26 UTC  

oh but now we're your bretheren....

2017-08-12 05:18:27 UTC  

you could always

2017-08-12 05:18:28 UTC  

you know

2017-08-12 05:18:29 UTC  

uh

2017-08-12 05:18:31 UTC  

Oy vey

2017-08-12 05:18:33 UTC  

pew pew.

2017-08-12 05:18:37 UTC  

Xd

2017-08-12 05:18:41 UTC  

I like this guy

2017-08-12 05:18:45 UTC  

Lol

2017-08-12 05:19:08 UTC  

Christian Europe was not alien to wars. How did they get the expertise to launch a crusade?

2017-08-12 05:19:16 UTC  

They were not defensive.

2017-08-12 05:19:16 UTC  

I let too many immigrants into my server

2017-08-12 05:19:29 UTC  

I wanna immigrate out of my nation

2017-08-12 05:19:34 UTC  

Probably irrelevant now but...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/345798448160833537/crusade-memes-wrong.jpg

2017-08-12 05:19:36 UTC  

Same

2017-08-12 05:19:36 UTC  

It is a lost cause

2017-08-12 05:19:42 UTC  

There's nothing wrong with offence.

2017-08-12 05:19:53 UTC  

That's how you win.

2017-08-12 05:19:59 UTC  

Xd

2017-08-12 05:20:01 UTC  

Tru

2017-08-12 05:20:02 UTC  

keeping the "Just War" theory in mind

2017-08-12 05:20:12 UTC  

It was a strange war.

2017-08-12 05:20:19 UTC  

War...

2017-08-12 05:20:25 UTC  

War never changes