Message from @Apache14

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2017-08-19 07:53:37 UTC  

Ah, but look at the economic growth of Pinochet

2017-08-19 07:55:25 UTC  

everything that allowed Chile to grow would exist under both Corporatist and NatSyn systems

2017-08-19 07:55:36 UTC  

the majority of the economy would remain untouched by government

2017-08-19 07:55:59 UTC  

only infrastructure, heavy industry, and miltary related firms are affected

2017-08-19 07:56:11 UTC  

even then, they are simply re-incentivized

2017-08-19 07:56:32 UTC  

The government is shit at doing anything

2017-08-19 07:56:44 UTC  

We don't need government interference at all

2017-08-19 07:56:45 UTC  

You repeat that

2017-08-19 07:57:03 UTC  

Yet autocracies and monarchies have shown that governments can be quite effective

2017-08-19 07:57:27 UTC  

More effective than communism, yes

2017-08-19 07:57:43 UTC  

But capitalism can do much better

2017-08-19 07:57:55 UTC  

k

2017-08-19 07:58:12 UTC  

just gonna ignore

2017-08-19 07:58:18 UTC  

the economic revivals

2017-08-19 07:58:21 UTC  

of germany

2017-08-19 07:58:23 UTC  

hungary

2017-08-19 07:58:25 UTC  

japan

2017-08-19 07:58:35 UTC  

china (post-mao)

2017-08-19 07:58:36 UTC  

itsly

2017-08-19 07:58:39 UTC  

spain

2017-08-19 07:58:42 UTC  

uhhh

2017-08-19 07:58:46 UTC  

what else

2017-08-19 07:59:11 UTC  

oh yeah greece under metaxas

2017-08-19 07:59:26 UTC  

russia

2017-08-19 07:59:41 UTC  

under corporatist, natsyn, or similar policies

2017-08-19 07:59:54 UTC  

Not good enough though

2017-08-19 08:00:01 UTC  

and capitalism?

2017-08-19 08:00:12 UTC  

what has capitalism done by its own virtue?

2017-08-19 08:00:24 UTC  

america, chile, and rerereviving japan

2017-08-19 08:00:27 UTC  

Like capitalism has found to be much better

2017-08-19 08:00:33 UTC  

no it hasnt

2017-08-19 08:00:37 UTC  

its good

2017-08-19 08:00:40 UTC  

but not better

2017-08-19 08:00:41 UTC  

#1 economy

2017-08-19 08:00:54 UTC  

Can natsyns do that?

2017-08-19 08:00:56 UTC  

No

2017-08-19 08:01:42 UTC  

took spain from nothing to 4th in literally a couple decades following a devastating civil war, versus america to number one in 100 years-ish

2017-08-19 08:02:12 UTC  

medium sized country versus very large country with huge foreign influence

2017-08-19 08:02:58 UTC  

its already been shown in america that private companies cant run railroads right

2017-08-19 08:03:09 UTC  

somehow even democratic govts are better than them

2017-08-19 08:03:40 UTC  

its been shown in every country thats ever gone to war that military firms have to have a level of cooperation with the govt for anything to work