Message from @Apache14

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2017-08-19 07:49:41 UTC  

Instead of slow commie industry

2017-08-19 07:49:54 UTC  

Corporatism provided great incentives for large companies to cooperate with the govt without the disadvantages of bad govt management

2017-08-19 07:50:20 UTC  

most firms would be unaffected because very few firms actually need to cooperate

2017-08-19 07:50:43 UTC  

and german industry wasnt slow

2017-08-19 07:50:46 UTC  

it was among the best

2017-08-19 07:51:20 UTC  

soviets also had an amazing industry but that was only because stalin made it less commie

2017-08-19 07:52:03 UTC  

and the americans only got an amazing war economy when the govt started introducing corporatist policies to get military firms to cooperate

2017-08-19 07:52:20 UTC  

but the new deal also was too socialist and fucked up other thinga

2017-08-19 07:53:37 UTC  

Ah, but look at the economic growth of Pinochet

2017-08-19 07:55:25 UTC  

everything that allowed Chile to grow would exist under both Corporatist and NatSyn systems

2017-08-19 07:55:36 UTC  

the majority of the economy would remain untouched by government

2017-08-19 07:55:59 UTC  

only infrastructure, heavy industry, and miltary related firms are affected

2017-08-19 07:56:11 UTC  

even then, they are simply re-incentivized

2017-08-19 07:56:32 UTC  

The government is shit at doing anything

2017-08-19 07:56:44 UTC  

We don't need government interference at all

2017-08-19 07:56:45 UTC  

You repeat that

2017-08-19 07:57:03 UTC  

Yet autocracies and monarchies have shown that governments can be quite effective

2017-08-19 07:57:27 UTC  

More effective than communism, yes

2017-08-19 07:57:43 UTC  

But capitalism can do much better

2017-08-19 07:57:55 UTC  

k

2017-08-19 07:58:12 UTC  

just gonna ignore

2017-08-19 07:58:18 UTC  

the economic revivals

2017-08-19 07:58:21 UTC  

of germany

2017-08-19 07:58:23 UTC  

hungary

2017-08-19 07:58:25 UTC  

japan

2017-08-19 07:58:35 UTC  

china (post-mao)

2017-08-19 07:58:36 UTC  

itsly

2017-08-19 07:58:39 UTC  

spain

2017-08-19 07:58:42 UTC  

uhhh

2017-08-19 07:58:46 UTC  

what else

2017-08-19 07:59:11 UTC  

oh yeah greece under metaxas

2017-08-19 07:59:26 UTC  

russia

2017-08-19 07:59:41 UTC  

under corporatist, natsyn, or similar policies

2017-08-19 07:59:54 UTC  

Not good enough though

2017-08-19 08:00:01 UTC  

and capitalism?

2017-08-19 08:00:12 UTC  

what has capitalism done by its own virtue?

2017-08-19 08:00:24 UTC  

america, chile, and rerereviving japan

2017-08-19 08:00:27 UTC  

Like capitalism has found to be much better

2017-08-19 08:00:33 UTC  

no it hasnt

2017-08-19 08:00:37 UTC  

its good

2017-08-19 08:00:40 UTC  

but not better