Message from @Katya

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2017-09-04 05:16:56 UTC  

So it's exceptional compared to what? What is the golden example you have in mind?

2017-09-04 05:17:24 UTC  

Where the government leads to greatest peace.

2017-09-04 05:18:10 UTC  

There is no golden example.

2017-09-04 05:18:38 UTC  

So on what basis are you saying that government leads to greatest peace?

2017-09-04 05:19:35 UTC  

What I meant, is that with modern governments, there is much more peace than there would be in the past.

2017-09-04 05:20:26 UTC  

I don't even know how to reply to that without examples.

2017-09-04 05:21:20 UTC  

Would you prefer to live in a feudal society or a neolithic tribe?

2017-09-04 05:22:05 UTC  

socialism doesnt work

2017-09-04 05:22:09 UTC  

look at venezuela

2017-09-04 05:23:18 UTC  

Hmmm, I could imagine a state of mind where I would prefer it. I'm not a reactionary though, it's hard for me to project myself into the past and want to return to it. I just accept the present.

2017-09-04 05:25:58 UTC  

I hope you like living in a stone house, farming from dawn until dusk, having to meet a quota that forces you to live off of a few peices of bread and dirty water from a river bed.

2017-09-04 05:26:58 UTC  

As if those are the only options.

2017-09-04 05:29:04 UTC  

Modern government is not perfect. The most perfect society would not need a government.

2017-09-04 05:29:36 UTC  

That is the thing, there is no perfect society.

2017-09-04 05:30:00 UTC  

That's true. But it can be improved and progressed.

2017-09-04 05:32:07 UTC  

Would it be better to have a government or not. or else being equal? Why shouldn't we try to move to improve where we can see that in a best cast scenario, government would not be needed. It's a way off, but it's an extra layer that may not be ultimately necessary, and society could be improved if it could learn to life without it.

2017-09-04 05:34:50 UTC  

anyone else like naztrot gang

2017-09-04 05:35:22 UTC  

stalinlism is trash

2017-09-04 05:35:52 UTC  

@Wilhelm Zaisser#5032 Equality is a false god, people will always need to be ordered and will always need people to give them orders.

2017-09-04 05:35:52 UTC  

the USSR was about as socialist as sweden

2017-09-04 05:36:26 UTC  

google murray bookchin

2017-09-04 05:36:58 UTC  

I'm a feminist/intersectionalist ama

2017-09-04 05:37:04 UTC  

@Katya Are you talking about late USSR?

2017-09-04 05:37:12 UTC  

@Piper Interwhat?

2017-09-04 05:37:24 UTC  

stalin was my favorite social democrat

2017-09-04 05:37:30 UTC  

I adhere to intersectionality theory which is a theory about oppression.

2017-09-04 05:37:41 UTC  

Lotta leftypolers don't like it

2017-09-04 05:37:49 UTC  

Enlighten me.

2017-09-04 05:38:04 UTC  

About intersectionality?

2017-09-04 05:38:48 UTC  

@Deleted User I didn't say anything about 'equality', I said learning to live without government. This involves economic emancipation, not the same as equality.

2017-09-04 05:39:02 UTC  

It's quite difficult to fend off so many assumptions at once.

2017-09-04 05:39:46 UTC  

@Piper Obviously.

2017-09-04 05:40:11 UTC  

>people will always need to be ordered and will always need people to give them orders
Always is a very long time.

2017-09-04 05:40:42 UTC  

The basic idea is that forms of oppression like class oppression, racism, and patriarcy reinforce and reproduce each other meaning that the approach to dismantling them needs to be inclusive and take each form of oppresion into account.

2017-09-04 05:42:56 UTC  

>Patriarchy
Did you come from tumblr?

2017-09-04 05:43:15 UTC  

lol Nope

2017-09-04 05:43:27 UTC  

@Piper He doesn't know anything. I hope you have lots of patience.

2017-09-04 05:44:09 UTC  

He's a massive dogmatist and reactionary.

2017-09-04 05:44:10 UTC  

>greentext

2017-09-04 05:44:17 UTC  

I like "educating" peole

2017-09-04 05:44:20 UTC  

*people