by your definitions true communism is unobtainable

I'm not going by my dfefinitions

I'm asking wether they themselves has claimed communism

not even sure Lenin claimed socialism

i think they did

can you find a source?

but again

that doesnt matter

@Big Ounce they had agrarian state till 36

agrarian?

oh yeah

nvm

it doesn't really matter no, but people make it matter when they begin talking about "communism failed" or "never had communism"

@Big Ounce peasantry

still

what they did was communism

it does not matter what they call themselves

it was a communist mevement yeah

they did call themselves communist too

north korea calls itself a democratic republic

just didn't claim they acvhieved it

that doesnt make it a democratic republic

what they called themselves doesnt matter

this is just identity politics

@Big Ounce what education you have on the topic?

not really

alright

how about we stop talking about these communist nations

ok

and talk about the communist ideas

sure

way simpler

wouldn't call it simpler, but at least it is easier to discuss

@Big Ounce you want to discuss something you never studied?

aye

you have any questions?

you don't need to study something to be able to talk about it

@Big Ounce is there any new information you want to add on a topic?

no

i just wanted to learn more about it

most communists i've met