Message from @AaronMk
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The thing with violence isn't so much being violent in itself, but the use of violence. Are people unrelated to the cause going to die, even as simple unavoidable consequences of conflict? Or is the threat of violent and force to enforce some sort of change going to be applied as with groups like the Deacons of Defense in the deep south during the Civil Rights movement?
Funny thing that's related
I once joined a socialist server that said advocating for political violence is not allowed
Direct action as praxis these days seems to be something frowned upon. You could see it as a selective look at the work of MLK or even Gahndi. Both ignore some fundamentals in the background, whether it be India's growing tenious position for the British in the aftermath of two World Wars or the support roll the armed vigilantes of the Deacons who helped enforced permanent reforms in the communities MLK and other national leaders got change in.
I don't know if these people are Americans too, but I'll even admit I still hold onto a few small threads that *maybe* the democratic system can be changed from within without bloodshed; that would be the preferred course but unlikely without everything being boiled down to meager pickings to even get it passed mainstream democrats.
Being opposed to the current system, let alone believe in displacing it by force, is frowned upon in general
I'm just going to blame it on a complex series of issues that may or may not include the way history is studied and taught in class and remembered in the popular memory.
Like, we want to remember all was good, even when it was bad, because the future will be good. Never mind the Continental Congress on many occasions dragged the colonial armies through successive periods of starvation and wanting because they were too busy hoarding stuff for the militias of the constituent colonies.
We'd rather think of Valley Forge as just a terrible winter, and not an actually very mild winter with the complicated factor that no one in Philadelphia-left-to-York, Pennsylvania wanted to feed them.
@olev In some undescerned location between Socialist, AnCom, or whatever vanilla Communism.
Well socialism is not it's own thing seperate from communism, communism is a type of socialism
It is, but in the popular mind-set it's often pictured as a less extreme variant.
The reason I ask is because I have a server of my own, which I actually started with a couple people that were on here since this place is mostly right wing trolls
Like if I were to tell someone I'm a socialist over a communist I doubt I'd be associated with gulags or starvation as so often happens. At best I'll be compared to muh Sweden or just get called an infantile liberal.
People always refer to Venezuela, the USSR, ect. to say that socialism has failed but never have heard of anarchist catalonia, Yugoslavia, Rojava, ect.
State socialism isn't exactly socialism
Since the workers neither own nor manage the means of production
PRetty much
But yeah if you want an invite to my server just let me know, it has about 70 members so far, most discussion is far more constructive and no right wing trolls like there is in here
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