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if people do not want to cooperate the state has nothing to do with it.
You should re-read what you just said in haste. The State is a third party in an otherwise harmonious relationship.
harmonious relationship between what?
do you even know why governments were established?
To perpetuate exploitative relationships built on dominance and slavery.
ahahahahaha
funny
but no
governments were designed to defend the people from foreigners
Were they? At which level of development? For that to be true, then people couldn't defend themselves without government, which is false.
I am speaking of ancient times.
the people could not organize properly against a raider party
the people were not able to defend themselves
I have no idea what you are talking about.
you don't seem to understand
others would organize raiding partys to steal from other smaller villagers
normally food or women
What culture are you talking about?
ancient african.
Pre Mesopotamian era
didn't what work?
the raiding partys?
I mean, if raiding didn't work, why make a response to them?
raiding did work.
thats why villages combined with eachother
and developed governments
and then armys
to defend from raiders
Hmmm, this makes sense actually.
Government is for defence.
yes
and helping the people
Anarchy is for offence.
offence of what?
Class and private property is not helpful. It is domineering.
Offence of the people.
helping the people, should be dictated by the people.
By they can't. The only thing people can dictate is themselves.
thats not my point
the people should decide what the government helps them in.