Message from @Deleted User

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2017-09-28 05:42:13 UTC  

if people do not want to cooperate the state has nothing to do with it.

2017-09-28 05:43:40 UTC  

You should re-read what you just said in haste. The State is a third party in an otherwise harmonious relationship.

2017-09-28 05:44:34 UTC  

harmonious relationship between what?

2017-09-28 05:44:53 UTC  

do you even know why governments were established?

2017-09-28 05:45:21 UTC  

To perpetuate exploitative relationships built on dominance and slavery.

2017-09-28 05:45:30 UTC  

ahahahahaha

2017-09-28 05:45:39 UTC  

funny

2017-09-28 05:45:44 UTC  

but no

2017-09-28 05:46:11 UTC  

governments were designed to defend the people from foreigners

2017-09-28 05:47:18 UTC  

Were they? At which level of development? For that to be true, then people couldn't defend themselves without government, which is false.

2017-09-28 05:47:53 UTC  

I am speaking of ancient times.

2017-09-28 05:48:18 UTC  

the people could not organize properly against a raider party

2017-09-28 05:48:44 UTC  

the people were not able to defend themselves

2017-09-28 05:49:19 UTC  

I have no idea what you are talking about.

2017-09-28 05:49:43 UTC  

you don't seem to understand

2017-09-28 05:50:14 UTC  

others would organize raiding partys to steal from other smaller villagers

2017-09-28 05:50:25 UTC  

normally food or women

2017-09-28 05:51:01 UTC  

What culture are you talking about?

2017-09-28 05:51:15 UTC  

ancient african.

2017-09-28 05:51:29 UTC  

Pre Mesopotamian era

2017-09-28 05:51:31 UTC  

Let's go with your 'raiders' example. Didn't that 'work'?

2017-09-28 05:51:46 UTC  

didn't what work?

2017-09-28 05:51:53 UTC  

the raiding partys?

2017-09-28 05:52:09 UTC  

I mean, if raiding didn't work, why make a response to them?

2017-09-28 05:52:21 UTC  

raiding did work.

2017-09-28 05:52:36 UTC  

thats why villages combined with eachother

2017-09-28 05:52:45 UTC  

and developed governments

2017-09-28 05:52:59 UTC  

and then armys

2017-09-28 05:53:06 UTC  

to defend from raiders

2017-09-28 05:53:14 UTC  

Hmmm, this makes sense actually.

2017-09-28 05:53:21 UTC  

Government is for defence.

2017-09-28 05:53:27 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 05:53:34 UTC  

and helping the people

2017-09-28 05:53:35 UTC  

Anarchy is for offence.

2017-09-28 05:53:52 UTC  

offence of what?

2017-09-28 05:54:06 UTC  

Class and private property is not helpful. It is domineering.

2017-09-28 05:54:22 UTC  

Offence of the people.

2017-09-28 05:54:28 UTC  

helping the people, should be dictated by the people.

2017-09-28 05:54:48 UTC  

By they can't. The only thing people can dictate is themselves.

2017-09-28 05:55:12 UTC  

thats not my point

2017-09-28 05:55:28 UTC  

the people should decide what the government helps them in.