Message from @Seedle

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2017-10-01 23:56:35 UTC  

Who is the meme targeting?

2017-10-01 23:56:46 UTC  

>socialism is just welfare

2017-10-01 23:56:50 UTC  

there's only a small amount of people who actually profit from minimum wages and people usually work their way up the hirarchy fast enough so that they get a better paying, middle class job

2017-10-01 23:57:05 UTC  

@Seedle did I say that?

2017-10-01 23:57:15 UTC  

@Seedle amazing straw man arguments, comrade cumguzzler

2017-10-01 23:57:39 UTC  

That's what you kept screeching about, am I right?

2017-10-01 23:57:41 UTC  

so as for ">paying the poor more", that's a very shallow understanding of wages

2017-10-01 23:57:51 UTC  

@Seedle uh, no

2017-10-01 23:58:04 UTC  

@Deleted User who is the meme targeting? Answer the question

2017-10-01 23:58:11 UTC  

But anyway, he's a proposed democratic socialist model that was introduced in wake of the welfare state's failure to deliver the actual intended results https://peoplespolicyproject.org/2017/08/21/tackling-wealth-inequality-like-a-swede/

2017-10-01 23:58:31 UTC  

@sleeping zzz a few questionable socialist opinions

2017-10-01 23:58:53 UTC  

which are very popular among leftists

2017-10-01 23:58:59 UTC  

they're stereotypical

2017-10-01 23:59:17 UTC  

>destroy all "subversive" "activity" by eliminating the boogeyman to save our capitalist culture and government

2017-10-01 23:59:44 UTC  

Reminder Hitler purged the left wing elements of the NSDAP because he was in bed with german industrialists and petit-bourgie

2017-10-02 00:00:25 UTC  

capitalism actually works pretty fine as long as the government doesn't cuck itself to corporations

2017-10-02 00:00:49 UTC  
2017-10-02 00:01:51 UTC  

>when you're apparently socialists but have the actually socialist leaders of your party are killed

2017-10-02 00:02:34 UTC  

Hitler was sympathetic towards capitalism

2017-10-02 00:02:38 UTC  

At some point

2017-10-02 00:02:38 UTC  

@Deleted User Where has that been the case?

2017-10-02 00:04:46 UTC  

Hitler was a massive shill for capitalists.

2017-10-02 00:05:58 UTC  

Well, America's rapid growth in the early 20th century before large scale corporate consolidation and larger corruption.
I don't think there's any examples of "pure capitalism" historically, that's more of an Ancap theory.

And I wouldn't exactly call Hitler a capitalist, but he allowed his market to grow fairly freely and focused on creating a powerful worker's union with worker's rights in terms of socialism.

2017-10-02 00:06:38 UTC  

all citizens of germany at that time were also given socialistic benefits

2017-10-02 00:06:45 UTC  

including women who are child bearing

2017-10-02 00:07:09 UTC  

Hitler was a darwinist, a naturalist and that's a big reason why he didn't like to go full socialist after the fascist revolution in Germany

2017-10-02 00:07:29 UTC  

its also pretty difficult to be a capitalist when your economy is nationalistic

2017-10-02 00:07:51 UTC  

There was major nationalist portions of the KPD.

2017-10-02 00:07:51 UTC  

what capital is there to maximize when u are trying to individualize the german economy

2017-10-02 00:07:58 UTC  

I mean you're pretty wrong on that.

2017-10-02 00:08:21 UTC  

In reality Hitler had to appeal to industrialists and capitalists as apart of consolidating his power.

2017-10-02 00:08:32 UTC  

what power

2017-10-02 00:08:37 UTC  

he was already dictator of germany

2017-10-02 00:09:01 UTC  

Military buildup, unions, just generally aligning people with him.

2017-10-02 00:09:32 UTC  

You can be a dictator and still be on a sinking ship.

2017-10-02 00:09:37 UTC  

but it wasnt

2017-10-02 00:09:43 UTC  

It was though.

2017-10-02 00:09:57 UTC  

so that wasnt a requirement, he was idolized and the economy was booming, if he is the result of it then thats why the german people praised him

2017-10-02 00:10:07 UTC  

just like you see with russia and putin

2017-10-02 00:10:57 UTC  

He wasn't idolized, he was seen as the only option to a lot of ordinary Germans.

2017-10-02 00:11:00 UTC  

That's revisionism.