Despite the working-class creating that through their labor.

but that goes under the idea of putting in place a full 100% socialistic society

where everything is equally owned by everyone

but we all know that doesnt work (unless in a utopian society)

Everything, no. The economic decisions, yes.

What do you mean it doesn't work?

As we can see through this swedish case, the biggest hurdle against it working was actually the resistance from the capitalists.

Resistance from capital in general, really.

because 1: it is a primary human instinct to put themselves above everything else

and 2: most of them are smart enough to get in such economic power in the first place they know it wouldnt work

you cant just 'equally' give the wealth of the economy to everyone

I disagree. Read the article, it's actually very interesting.

there is too much exploitation involved

You realize for most of human history, wages didn't exist?

if a wage didnt exist it was either slavery or they were in a family

The point isn't to "give" it to them, it's to make a system where that wealth can be distributed on the society's own terms, or even where wealth is not a primary factor in many life decisions.

Like I said

Ownership

Communism is basically like mutual aid societies

But instead the input is the work provided by everyone, and the output is what is derived from their work

so what happens if one person doesnt work

and another person sees that person not working, getting free benefits, and then everyone stops working?

You'd be pretty fucking bored out of your mind not doing anything with your life

This depends. Is the society automated?

You can't automate everything

the society is a normal society with the concept of communism applied

if it is automation then it isnt communism because the people arent in control

So basically the level of automation we have now?

'a machine' is

yea that would work the same

our current state of automation still requires people to work

the machines just wont handle things correctly if they dont have ppl working

Wrong. Automation would still be communist. It just wouldn't be people in the factories.

I don't mean automation as in "machines make some of the decisions"

I mean automated production.

ye then thats the same situation

someones still gotta flip the switches

and whoever does that is whoever can control the production

https://discord.gg/MAmJc7

if it requires effort, then ppl will just choose 'not to do it'

if it doesnt require effort, people will just choose to 'take more for themselves'