Message from @olev

Discord ID: 377088803418013706


2017-11-06 13:34:36 UTC  

Aka Ooligarchs

2017-11-06 13:34:44 UTC  

Im not talking about trade

2017-11-06 13:34:50 UTC  

You said get rid of money

2017-11-06 13:34:52 UTC  

Having a dictator is anti-marxist

2017-11-06 13:35:06 UTC  

You're not understanding

2017-11-06 13:35:11 UTC  

What am I not understanding

2017-11-06 13:35:14 UTC  

There is going to be a dictator

2017-11-06 13:35:17 UTC  

No matter what

2017-11-06 13:35:21 UTC  

Someone wants that power

2017-11-06 13:35:29 UTC  

Why doesn't this happen under capitalism?

2017-11-06 13:35:29 UTC  

Anarchy doesnt exist

2017-11-06 13:35:38 UTC  

Real world communism that was implemented an various countries all over the world in 20th century was not real communism. Real communism is a utopian idea in my mind. So real world communism is not real. Imaginary communism is real.

2017-11-06 13:35:44 UTC  

Oh boy

2017-11-06 13:35:46 UTC  

He's back

2017-11-06 13:35:46 UTC  

No state doesn't mean there's no government

2017-11-06 13:35:51 UTC  

dictatorships within a regime with total state power is inevitable

2017-11-06 13:35:53 UTC  

This is my queue to leave

2017-11-06 13:35:56 UTC  

I think he's asking how you can get rid of money if people resist

2017-11-06 13:36:00 UTC  

"total state power"

2017-11-06 13:36:13 UTC  

@Deleted User if your supporter's resist at that

2017-11-06 13:36:16 UTC  

The state is essentially organized by worker's councils that delegate people and shit

2017-11-06 13:36:25 UTC  

you cant get rid of money

2017-11-06 13:36:30 UTC  

People want money to buy luxuries and pay mercenaries to stay in power

2017-11-06 13:36:33 UTC  

Greed runs everything

2017-11-06 13:36:39 UTC  

Democracies and Communes alike

2017-11-06 13:36:42 UTC  

competition*

2017-11-06 13:36:49 UTC  

@Deleted User just stop. You make a third world monkey look smart

2017-11-06 13:37:00 UTC  

What luxuries are you talking about

2017-11-06 13:37:12 UTC  

greed is an essential human characteristic, so no government can really be expected to be moral enough to avoid bribery/greed etc

2017-11-06 13:37:21 UTC  

yes

2017-11-06 13:37:26 UTC  

Thats like asking what is a luxury

2017-11-06 13:37:30 UTC  

and thats why communism can nver be implemented

2017-11-06 13:37:30 UTC  

Greed is not an inherent human behavior

2017-11-06 13:37:31 UTC  

Maybe if your people are raised like degenerates, but altruism is totally a thing. You just need to harness it and educate people

2017-11-06 13:37:34 UTC  

or basically

2017-11-06 13:37:35 UTC  

cant work

2017-11-06 13:37:35 UTC  

It's human nature to breath

2017-11-06 13:37:44 UTC  

"implemented"

2017-11-06 13:37:51 UTC  

Economic calculation red her- problem

2017-11-06 13:37:58 UTC  

Okay so