Message from @olev

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2017-11-18 00:24:16 UTC  

Sure, there could be a useby date that stated that you would have to use them by a certain date unless you get sent to a gulag for being a capitalist porko, but that would be the extent of it.

2017-11-18 00:25:21 UTC  

Well it's based off of how many hours you work

2017-11-18 00:25:43 UTC  

And things are priced based upon how many hours they took to produce

2017-11-18 00:25:59 UTC  

So under this system, you could actually buy back what you produce, you cannot in capitalism

2017-11-18 00:26:16 UTC  

Oh for fucks sake, this is almost identitical to a capitalist system.

2017-11-18 00:26:29 UTC  

🤔

2017-11-18 00:28:55 UTC  

You would get a certain amount of good boy points based off of how many hours you work, AKA a wage, and items would be priced on how long it took to produce them, AKA, how much quality (hopefully) was put into them, (If not, you could just sit on your ass all day and exploit the system and inflate prices.), so in otherwords, the company would price them based on how much effort and resources were needed to produce them, and of course, there would be a few extra good boy points needed, because otherwise there is no profit in making your items.

2017-11-18 00:29:29 UTC  

"company"

2017-11-18 00:29:38 UTC  

I don't think you know what you're talking about

2017-11-18 00:29:53 UTC  

Excuse me.

2017-11-18 00:30:06 UTC  

I mean "factory" or "workplace".

2017-11-18 00:31:08 UTC  

Unless we are in syndicalism, it is unlikely that companies could even form with 100% taxe rates and an incredbily short period of time to hold onto your good boy points.

2017-11-18 00:32:02 UTC  

But, they would still form under the name of "factories", with them just being single location based companies.

2017-11-18 00:33:53 UTC  

It's a centrally planned economy you nigger

2017-11-18 00:35:44 UTC  

@olev Oh so the state owns everything?

2017-11-18 00:36:01 UTC  

That certainly does not leave room for corruption or exploitation at all.

2017-11-18 00:37:24 UTC  

says the fascist

2017-11-18 00:38:07 UTC  

By the way, the state is made up of worker councils

2017-11-18 00:38:15 UTC  

There is worker self-management

2017-11-18 00:40:46 UTC  

@olev That didn't happen in every socialist country that has ever existed.

2017-11-18 00:41:06 UTC  

What, worker self-management?

2017-11-18 00:41:10 UTC  

Not in the USSR or China

2017-11-18 00:41:18 UTC  

Well it existed in early USSR

2017-11-18 00:41:28 UTC  

there's an intermediate stage between capitalism and socialism

2017-11-18 00:41:44 UTC  

Dictatorship of the proletariat

2017-11-18 00:41:45 UTC  

That and the leadership being worker councils.

2017-11-18 00:42:05 UTC  

Probably because they were peasant based

2017-11-18 00:42:18 UTC  

But anyways

2017-11-18 00:42:33 UTC  

>Central and eastern europe in the 1940s
>Peasant based
?

2017-11-18 00:42:47 UTC  

The socialist mode of production supercedes capitalism, it doesn't co-exist with it

2017-11-18 00:43:05 UTC  

Those were puppet states of the USSR

2017-11-18 00:43:08 UTC  

Yes, I already know this, we talked about it like 10 minutes ago.

2017-11-18 00:43:17 UTC  

(The non co-existance that is)

2017-11-18 00:43:18 UTC  

Well you said socialist countries

2017-11-18 00:43:45 UTC  

I thought you'

2017-11-18 00:43:55 UTC  

you're an anti-capitalist*

2017-11-18 00:43:59 UTC  

Unless you're just one of those

2017-11-18 00:44:04 UTC  

Yep, that I am.

2017-11-18 00:44:19 UTC  

"i hate capitalism but i dont want to replace it"

2017-11-18 00:44:20 UTC  

Though that does not mean I can use it to my advantage in debating against you.

2017-11-18 00:44:44 UTC  

If you truly supercede cpaitalism, I need to see if that is true.