Yeah, I think the church played a crucial role in stifling resistance.

As for Xmas, I may buy myself a book or two. You?

I got a little extra scratch from work bought shit for my family and friends but sprung for a ebook reader so I can read stuff away from my computer and not have to pay for it

I was thinking of buying a shotgun but I can always wait

I was thinking the 20" maverick 12guage pump I had the 18.5" model in the past

Nice, I still have a few gifts left to buy for others. And an ebook reader is definitely a great investment considering the vast amount of literature that can be downloaded in .pdf and other formats for free.

the 20" barrel model has a much larger mag tube

yeah I was thinking it would be a good idea

The Maverick is a very reliable and cost-effective shotgun.

yeah I like them I prefer mossberg over remington since they got bought by freedomgroup

I hate FG they pretty much just cut quality control to save a buck ruining tons of good products

Yeah, I wasn't aware of the acquisition of Remington by FG, but that doesn't surprise me.

I think the differences between the 500 line and the maverick line are not enough to justify buying the 500 main issue is cross bolt safety as compared to tang safety imo

Definitely not. I will gladly take an 88 over a 500 tbh.

I don't mind the more plastic on it and the cross bolt safety

I just need to save up for a decent AR, AK prices are stupid now

like WASR 10s are well over 600 now

Yeah, I actually have a WASR that was given to me as a gift some years ago but I really want to build my own AR for around 500 bucks.

some people are selling them for 750 plus, like seriously you have jankily milled out receivers with mag wobble alot for so much when you can make a good AR for a company like PSA for around 400-500

Yeah, the WASR 10's are far from ideal as far as AK's go.

yeah I am happy AR prices dropped but I just wish AKs were better priced

yugo N PAPS and O PAPS are a good alternative along with VZ 58s even thought they are not really an AK

I'd LOVE a Saiga..

I remember around 2013 VZ58s were priced around 400 for one with 2 mags and mag pouch and cleaning kit but they probably dried up

Like an Arsenal SGL.

So sexy.

did they ever drop the russian weaspon import ban

No, I don't believe so.

Unfortunately... :<

I remember dudes seeling saiga and other russian made weapons on armslist for way too much when it was announced

yeah arsenal seems like the premier brand for AKs

Yeah, that definitely doesn't surprise me. And I love Armslist. I've found some great handguns on there that were priced really well.

Oh yeah, Arsenal is top-notch.

my question is all the AKs in the world how is it that every goat herder in developing nations has one but most of them are out of price range for the poor here

I guess regulations and such

Yeah, that's definitely an issue. There are far more beneficiaries of Eastern Bloc surplus in the third world.

I'd like to get my hands on a Mosin for around 150 bucks. Lately they've been going for 250-300 around here.

I was thinking of joining the DSA despite them being revisionists but I think they are the only leftist org that really meets in my smallish city

You might actually find some revolutionary socialists there despite their official line.

yeah I shot one with my friends but my friend got one when he was young around 07 I think for 80 bucks or something crazy cheap

I've heard of revolutionary socialists within their ranks.