cigarrates don't exist in nature

clothes don't exist in nature

we evolved this way

Oh, you are taking me for an anprim now.

for a good reason

anything we do is natural

because we a part of nature

Is plastic natural then?

it can be found on other planets

if that's worth anything

but yes we made it therefore it is since we are a part of nature

@Deleted User While humans are apart of nature, are their creations therefore apart of nature? NO! They are artifical, human made.
Now do not get me wrong, which you clearly already have, but humans should only make their creations if they are useful to everybody in their community, and have a decent amount of quality, items that are created just for the sheer purpose to satisfy human WANTS, should not be created at all.

humans want only 2 major things to reproduce to be happy

Do humans not care about living?

not all of them

suicidal people dont

So in that case it is proven that happiness does not always occur within nature no matter what, meaning that happiness is not a right.

no the persuit of happiness is the right

i can persue whatever i want

But you said earlier that happiness wasn't a right, but a brain reaction.

i said persuit of happiness

there are limits of course

but that's the general idea

Not everything in nature persues happiness, meaning that it is not a right.

Simple as that.

i disagree humans are different we got smarts

they have the right to

imo

Nope, not if some refuse to.

a right is not a mandate

right means you can

not you have to

Yes.... it is.

that's like saying freedom of religion means you have to believe in jeebus

(intentional typo)

The bill of rights is a bill of lies.

we should spread the bill of rights from antartica to the north pole

imperialist

@Syrus#6284 Thanks for the compliment.

not you

doug