vietnam is a good example of nationalism gone right

Where nationalism exists in a popular and moderate form today, it is just used to make peoeple obedient to countries.

And wishes only the best for his people

Tada

Democracy

Why obedient

@Deleted User You mean it collapses back into capitalism and leaves the people enslaved to factories which they thought they were beating back?

I don't get what you're trying to prove here

okay, america inferfearing is not nationalistic

It's just american

But favoring your homeland over abdul is

no beating back america is

im proud of vietnam

@KoalaBear Well nationalism is being utilized so that people: Do not question authority, Do not disobey the laws, and Do not think for themselves.

HOW?

for defeating the imperialists

Aha

You mean Vietcong

@Deleted User Why? It was an utter failure in defeating capitalism.

What the fuck do you mean?

I think of myself as a slovenian!

Not as a member of the world

I do not question the goverment, for who am I to critisize it?

i question the government because i am a part of choosing how its run

To disobey the laws isn't something you can learn

That's called being a criminal

You have *moral fucking values, right?*

@KoalaBear isnt questioning the gov just democracy

define questioning

opposing

Disobeying the law makes you an outcast

disagreeing with

freely

@KoalaBear Well, take the alt-right for example, they almost always fall under the same category of nu-nationalism where they practically worship donald trump and his cabinent, even when they commit crimes, and get caught for it, and when trump breaks his promises they still do not question him at all and tend to ignore it.

Wait, so even if your government clearly went against your people, and kept implementing leftist and moderate ideals, you would still obey them?

Which isn't something to be proud of

nd protesting

I'm not american! You cannot compare the state of america with the state of my nation!

your right

but you do have a democracy

do you not

Yes, we always did