Yes, the ukranians were starved by the soviet union and hundreds of thousands died.

Killing the people who didn't want to play along is a good strategy to be fair

ok

Truly everybody working together as a family.

they wanted to break from the soviet union right?

@WaitFor(You) I guess national identity and freedom did not match up with the communists.

More than hundreds of thousands btw

i think national identity is very important

Lot more

for a successful society

capitalism strips identity

@WaitFor(You) Looks like you are going in the gulag for encouraging a counter revolution then.

no

ukraine probably didnt want to be part of the Warsaw PACT

and so they faced embargo

@WaitFor(You) This was in the WW2 era, while it was still happening.

and the West couldnt intervene

ok

ill have to research it

@WaitFor(You) 1933

i cant really say anything about it

I am pretty sure the warsaw pact did not exist yet.

1955

it started

as a response to NATO

NATO is bullshit

Holodomer was pre-WW2

and cries about anything

they even cry now

about russia having shit in their own country

even though NATO has missles and shit aimed at Russia

NATO deserves to be dissolved along with the UN.

I agree

^^

But I digress, we are getting off topic.

i dont know why you defend late stage liberal capitalism

you're arguing me as if im a trotskyfag

I don't the corporations deserved to be dissolved, and the nation should close it's borders to refugee's and immigrants, HOWEVER, a freemarket should still exist.

Yet here is the different between both of us.

nobody gives a shit about "muh free market"

We have different enemies.