Message from kriegsmariner VA in /leftypol/ International #english
That is quite the generalization there.
And, I would disagree with you.
clerical fascism, italian, falange etc
were all derived from sorel
Sorel is what turned mussolini away from the reds
I don't think evola or mousillini even mentioned sorel in their interviews.
Mussolini went to Sorels funeral
Sorel approved of mussolini for his syndicalist views
Didn't hitler attend some of the RAF funerals?
Cultured Thug did a whole presentation on Sorel and his link to fascism
So in that case, woulden't he be fascist?
Sorel is often considered a proto-fascist
but he's a weird one he'd go back and forth from being an ansyn to natsyn
Okay? If he was ultimately considered a fascist and a national syndicalist, then why would you even cite him as a socialist?
because syndicalism is a form of socialism
>Falangists destroy CNT FAI
>Mousillini purges communists and anarchists
because they were'nt the same kind of socialists
By that definition, WW2 was leftist infighting.
and radically different views on social issues
Fascism is not a left or right worldview
Now hold on, there is no way that a socialist would be somebody like cordreanu, or mousillini, because, they fight for both their race, and nation, and an economy that benefits the NATION.
their economies were syndicalist
de facto socialism
So you call it socialist, but in reality it is just yours by claim?
its not marxist socialism
but its socialism
every great nationalist movement has had some socialist ideals if not a very socialist economy
every great socialist state has been somewhat nationalistic if not atleast patriotic
To the fascist state comes first but had syndicalist economies
So you then admit that national socialism IS socialism? You have no good reason to believe that socialism means that workers own everything, and afterall, the people you have provided have worked against you, because some allowed private production methods, meaning that national socialism has every reason to call itself socialism.
To the socialist the likes of Stalin, Mao, Kim il sung etc class came first but had very strong patriotism and nationalism
That is true.
Hitlerism is more akin to social democracy and is the forebearer of the current nordic model
Nordic countries used to be mildly ethnocentric as well
So while its not you're waspy capitalism
Its still capitalism
So in other words, you cocede that it is.
@Krieg#0336 I've always thought that Nazi Germany was a corporatist economy where the Government had a lot of influence over capitalist monopolies, nowhere near a social democracy ala Nordic countries. Also, on Mousillini being a National Syndicalist, from what I heard he abandond Syndicalism quite quickly. Correct me if I'm wrong, however.
And for the record, I would personally accept Strasserism as a form of socialism, albeit a bastard child of socialism and fascism.