Message from @Kryptonite

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2019-10-15 14:35:57 UTC  

It’s utopian

2019-10-15 14:35:59 UTC  

Coloquially? Seychelles.

2019-10-15 14:36:00 UTC  

Hurdur

2019-10-15 14:36:11 UTC  

Probably.

2019-10-15 14:36:33 UTC  

republican spain what

2019-10-15 14:36:37 UTC  

what are you on about

2019-10-15 14:36:39 UTC  

Lol.

2019-10-15 14:36:43 UTC  

Good question.

2019-10-15 14:36:50 UTC  

Although it is probably true communism has never really been tried

2019-10-15 14:37:02 UTC  

tried is a vague term

2019-10-15 14:38:05 UTC  

Well, according to the Marxist definition, I don’t think even socialism was tried.
As it means the common ownership of the means of production.

2019-10-15 14:38:22 UTC  

it's all semantics

2019-10-15 14:38:40 UTC  

mostly because "communism failed" or "it doesn't work" isn't an actual argument

2019-10-15 14:38:52 UTC  

it's too vague to be worth entertaining a discussion

2019-10-15 14:39:14 UTC  

its just something you can say that superficially sounds right

2019-10-15 14:39:17 UTC  

rhetoric or whatever

2019-10-15 14:39:31 UTC  

So the real question is could it ever work

2019-10-15 14:39:35 UTC  

Which is no

2019-10-15 14:39:46 UTC  

Unless we get UBI and complete automation-

2019-10-15 14:39:47 UTC  

define work

2019-10-15 14:39:47 UTC  

Capitalism doesnt work either. Both communism and capitalism are just short term solutions

2019-10-15 14:40:04 UTC  

Capitalism has worked the best

2019-10-15 14:40:12 UTC  

No such thing as a perfect system buddy

2019-10-15 14:40:34 UTC  

maybe if we achieve post-scarcity it could work

2019-10-15 14:40:42 UTC  

scientifically impossible

2019-10-15 14:40:44 UTC  

But eventually you have the super rich controlling all the wealth and everyone else fighting for crumbs

2019-10-15 14:41:00 UTC  

It ends like the game of monopoly

2019-10-15 14:41:10 UTC  

you can't achieve post-scarcity in a materially finite universe

2019-10-15 14:41:32 UTC  

What if we become technologically advanced enough to synthesize water

2019-10-15 14:41:40 UTC  

And lab grown human meat that’s ethical to consume!

2019-10-15 14:41:53 UTC  

i mean sure

2019-10-15 14:41:59 UTC  

practical post-scarcity

2019-10-15 14:42:09 UTC  

what if we automate the entire labor force

2019-10-15 14:42:12 UTC  

having a metric fuckton of resources to go around

2019-10-15 14:42:17 UTC  
2019-10-15 14:42:29 UTC  

and let supercomputers take over

2019-10-15 14:42:45 UTC  

scarcity technically still exists it just wouldn't be an issue at the time

2019-10-15 14:43:54 UTC  

Or maybe have every country work on population control? Stop awarding people for having kids, sanction countries that wont control their populations

2019-10-15 14:44:24 UTC  

good luck with that

2019-10-15 14:45:00 UTC  

Its better than billions of people dying from famine, disease, or lack of clean water

2019-10-15 14:45:22 UTC  

>every country work on population control