Message from @Prometheus

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2019-09-12 14:10:28 UTC  

If we could get a nice way, to exchange wealth in such a way in which we could avoid conflict and have maximum peace.

2019-09-12 14:11:47 UTC  

There are indication we could get there. Idk to tbh
Anyway what do you think of this UBI(Universal Basic Income) idea.

2019-09-12 14:12:07 UTC  

I think it's enslavement

2019-09-12 14:12:19 UTC  

At least that's what I think.

2019-09-12 14:12:40 UTC  

The Elite furthering their grip.

2019-09-12 14:13:07 UTC  

Though if you look at it from another angle as a layman it looks nice.

2019-09-12 14:14:54 UTC  

But I don't even understand how they will manage. After all the US is in dept, etc

2019-09-12 14:15:04 UTC  

Unsure

2019-09-12 14:15:13 UTC  

It can help people

2019-09-12 14:15:19 UTC  

It can decimate their lives

2019-09-12 14:15:59 UTC  

Yeah could go either ways, we just have see if it is ever implemented.

2019-09-12 14:16:38 UTC  

GB does a bad job at it, while Canada does it really well

2019-09-12 14:19:31 UTC  

So it might depend, how well it is handled. Interesting

2019-09-12 14:37:10 UTC  

GB tries to push it with their “pro elite” ideas

2019-09-12 14:37:17 UTC  

Also known as Anglo Liberalism

2019-09-12 14:54:37 UTC  

Anglo Liberalism might want to check it out in more detail. I am aware to an extent, but not that much.
Also I feel I do have the need to learn, more older forms capitalism in more detail.

2019-09-12 14:56:46 UTC  

Older forms of Capitalism are why this late stage capitalism is so “controlling”

2019-09-12 15:18:41 UTC  

I even heard something interesting from Chomsky that Adam Smith had different stuff in mind for Capitalism that many of the modern economists never acknowledge.
It was more inclined to an welfare state, rather than a full free market system that most propose.
I'll try to find the source. I don't know if Chomsky is right, but I found it interesting.

The late Capitalism is so controlling because of many reasons.
I think the ruling elite of America never died, they changed shaped, but controlled massively Business and the State.

2019-09-12 15:18:45 UTC  

Though there many were self made men too in America, but still the ruling control of the State was never diminished and it kept on gowning. The stuff which the founders warned of, if people did not keep check of the powers of government it would turn into the worst forms of tyranny.
What's happening now feels like they are eating themselves at the expense of the people.
We are just a pawns of their grand game. Whether it's big business or big government they control us undoubtedly. Because they own the means of production and the major resources are in their hands, we just comply we have no other choice.

Look at it soberly every war is a business transaction to get something in return. Under the expense of the consumer or human resource as they disgustingly name it.
Even call us human capital, disgusting.
Like we are money or resources.
Going back to topic
It's more like a mindless profit motive, with a mad population which consumes it's own flesh and has no problem, until it happens to them.
People are apathetic and don't care what happens to them and to each other, if they only they can get a burger they surrender.

Don't ever forget we give power to the elites, only because we comply to them. They have no power on their own.

But we as people have no source or means of organizing. Because most of are aimless and lack a social structure that might bind us in common cause.

Especially in the interest of most, or all if we care enough.

On the other side, look at us, we are sent to schools to learn conformity and never question our masters and obey.

So you can see the result.
Few of us can think on our own, let alone make great noble society or civilization. Which may have some have some decent amount of freedom and goodness.

We need a major reformation as human race if we have to succeed against these blood suckers.

2019-09-12 15:21:55 UTC  

Here's the video where Chomsky talks about Adam Smith.

2019-09-12 15:25:14 UTC  

Adam Smith couldn’t have predicted how his ideals would be corrupted

2019-09-12 15:26:02 UTC  

His idea of capitalism was never meant to hit the height that it has now but ever since the disaster of the Industrial Revolution...reality has been changing towards pure and bloody authoritarianism

2019-09-12 15:27:14 UTC  

Can't deny that, it's unfortunate but I can't see a way out.

2019-09-12 15:30:47 UTC  

The Great Game must be stopped at any cost

2019-09-12 15:33:27 UTC  

We have changed so much in the past 300 years, its almost like humanity has evolved into a demon that it can’t stop

2019-09-12 15:37:22 UTC  

Haha yea, curious to see where we will end up.

2019-09-12 15:37:44 UTC  

Wonder will we go to Mars. lol

2019-09-12 15:38:23 UTC  

That Elon Musk feels like a fraud to me.

2019-09-12 15:38:48 UTC  

In fact all these public figures feel like frauds.

2019-09-12 15:40:10 UTC  

They feel like actors, there is no solid foundation behind them I believe. Fiction and reality has submerged so badly that I don't even have full idea of what may be the truth anymore.

2019-09-12 15:40:36 UTC  

Perfect for our controllers to control us.

2019-09-12 15:41:59 UTC  

In fact I wonder are we being told truth from any side. I feel like it's been years since I've heard anything that is real anymore.

2019-09-12 15:42:39 UTC  

So much propaganda that it's sickning. From all sides

2019-09-12 16:50:06 UTC  

Life is a play

2019-09-12 18:15:49 UTC  

It indeed is

2019-09-12 18:19:11 UTC  

The real question is if we should deny it, embrace it, praise it, or just fuck with it

2019-09-12 18:24:43 UTC  

I'm with the third option.

2019-09-12 21:44:22 UTC  

Alright a bit sanity here

2019-09-12 21:44:38 UTC  

hmm

2019-09-12 21:44:50 UTC  

Well goodbye folks