Message from @Prometheus

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2019-09-12 15:33:27 UTC  

We have changed so much in the past 300 years, its almost like humanity has evolved into a demon that it can’t stop

2019-09-12 15:37:22 UTC  

Haha yea, curious to see where we will end up.

2019-09-12 15:37:44 UTC  

Wonder will we go to Mars. lol

2019-09-12 15:38:23 UTC  

That Elon Musk feels like a fraud to me.

2019-09-12 15:38:48 UTC  

In fact all these public figures feel like frauds.

2019-09-12 15:40:10 UTC  

They feel like actors, there is no solid foundation behind them I believe. Fiction and reality has submerged so badly that I don't even have full idea of what may be the truth anymore.

2019-09-12 15:40:36 UTC  

Perfect for our controllers to control us.

2019-09-12 15:41:59 UTC  

In fact I wonder are we being told truth from any side. I feel like it's been years since I've heard anything that is real anymore.

2019-09-12 15:42:39 UTC  

So much propaganda that it's sickning. From all sides

2019-09-12 16:50:06 UTC  

Life is a play

2019-09-12 18:15:49 UTC  

It indeed is

2019-09-12 18:19:11 UTC  

The real question is if we should deny it, embrace it, praise it, or just fuck with it

2019-09-12 18:24:43 UTC  

I'm with the third option.

2019-09-12 21:44:22 UTC  

Alright a bit sanity here

2019-09-12 21:44:38 UTC  

hmm

2019-09-12 21:44:50 UTC  

Well goodbye folks

2019-09-14 14:58:45 UTC  

@Prometheus Marx wanted to describe Socialism in this chapter, he was extremely "neutral" on the abolishment of the state and its preddacors. He wasn't sure that the industrial world was ready for full blown communism, mainly due to the fact that the seeded control of the establishment had been around for such a long time that it no longer seemed to matter.


1. Marx is referring to Private property not personal property, I.E you still own your watch but not the factory that made the watch. Marx wanted this mainly due to how much control that the capitalists had over the factories and investments were to the point of absurdity and Malice.
2. Marx wanted to slowly abolish the wealthy through taxes, so even if they somehow existed in that society they would still be forced to pay up to the rest of their society. The rich wouldn't pay any taxes compared to the common class individuals in the world.
3. Inheritance allowed generations of rich bourgeoisie to just stay rich before crashing and burning and heavily impacting the lives of the working class in the labor forces. Incompetency lead to corruption, corruption led to politicians being bribed, and that led to further oppression of the proles.

2019-09-14 14:58:45 UTC  

4. This was meant for the rich people that fled countries and created reactionary forces that would attempt to reinvade or retake Socialist states. He wanted the rich to pay their share instead of them constantly fleeing and bribing their way into some other country. He didn't mean emigrants that were dirt poor fleeing a war torn country, he meant the rich bastards that fled the country on their private yacht.
5. Again, this is socialism, the beginning of the end goal for Communism according to MLs, Leninsts, Stalinists, Trotskists, and Democratic Socialists like FUCKIGN ORWELLASDFJOHASKJHD ASKJD. A centralized banking system under socialism can create a world without money, a private bank likes to keep its money around til it crashes and burns. This was a time where Private banks were the norm and the control of the banking system was utterly in the rich and the "nobles" of the time.
6. Communication and transports were very much under the complete control of the rich in the 1840's and 1850's and it still is. He wanted a way for Proles to be able to transport and communicate without the worry of getting stranded or getting scammed by a rich cunt who is looking to scam them.

2019-09-14 14:59:55 UTC  

Again

2019-09-14 15:00:25 UTC  

I don't support this ideology and Marx couldn't have ever foreseen what was to come with his ideals and ideology

2019-09-14 15:13:20 UTC  

We have fundamental differences here then. I part roads with you here, kind sir.
I don't particular think that when the private sector having control as a bad thing.
Of course we coming here, with completely opposite schools of thought.
In my view of Capitalism necessitates need of a consumer, and if it ever did become a free market which never did sadly. It would never consolidated wealth the way it has under the power of the state.
It destroys fair competition and play favors and solidify power to the incompetent.
Wealth is produced on hard earned labor of the worker and is traded on the basis of money which was real before, when it was based on Gold and Silver. Now it's toilet paper garbage. It's based on debt which is never ending and we are enslaved in cycle we can never really escape. The modern form of slavery.

My contest to the State and distribution of wealth by it is that it isn't based on personal merit but on the necessity of find some corrupt of greedy and distributing it to all as a means of justice.

2019-09-14 15:13:31 UTC  

I was still writing sorry

2019-09-14 15:13:37 UTC  

I'll continue

2019-09-14 15:24:42 UTC  

I mean in which point to you end up as the bourgeoise?
If you are successful? Let's suppose you end up having a good recipe in a restaurant and it becomes popular. You'll obviously end up with more revenue and at the same time offer more to your workers and reap the benefits yourself.
But it is necessitated on a service or a product or growth of any field of human comfort or necessity we would want.
It's not like someone takes your wealth by force, but instead produces it.
If you end up more rich for a successful product or service and treat your worker fairly. I see not problem with that model.
Why should you penalized for it, and why does one have the say right to take your wealth, which you fairly earned.

I can talk so much more on this, but this one point I wanted to make.

I'll return when I have more time.

2019-09-14 16:09:27 UTC  

same here

2019-09-14 19:00:31 UTC  

calling all nazis

2019-09-14 19:04:00 UTC  

i need someone to shriek at

2019-09-14 19:04:02 UTC  

@everyone

2019-09-14 19:04:03 UTC  

xd

2019-09-14 19:57:26 UTC  
2019-09-14 19:57:35 UTC  

I summon you to argue with my hound

2019-09-14 21:13:27 UTC  

@Ned Kelly dont larp

2019-09-14 21:14:31 UTC  

@Kytzche Cúchulainn means quite literally “the hound of Cullen”

2019-09-14 21:15:43 UTC  

cringe

2019-09-14 22:02:13 UTC  
2019-09-14 22:13:28 UTC  

I bet you don’t even know what a cuck is lmfao

2019-09-14 22:17:32 UTC  

@Ned Kelly "Cuck" a short term derived from "Cuckold" for a person who enjoy getting his loved wife fucked by another man.

2019-09-14 22:17:53 UTC  

Eh

2019-09-14 22:17:58 UTC  

Close but not quite

2019-09-14 22:18:38 UTC  

its not always a wife or gf

2019-09-14 22:19:36 UTC  

Not sure how im exactly that to you but I guess cause you are a Fascist and have a huge brain