Message from @shrub

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2019-10-26 23:04:40 UTC  

Have an actual conversation

2019-10-26 23:05:07 UTC  

Ok so the biggest threat is global capitalism, which is an outgrowth from neoliberal or neoconservative foreign policy and as well as that economic policy

2019-10-26 23:06:07 UTC  

Leftists are weak as it is, and most leftists are syncretic-ideologues of social progressivism and liberalism with socialist characteristics

2019-10-26 23:06:37 UTC  

Right wingers for the most part are equally incoherent, and the prevailing "right wing" since about Reagan has been neoconservatism especially in the US

2019-10-26 23:06:45 UTC  

I also have some strong fundamentals and do support the idea of free market but not so sure anymore. When I see the consolidation of power. I don't know where to stand anymore.

I think the position you have taken is quite the wise one.
I myself seem quite in the mix, but won't seem enough of a centrist either.
@Valeska-ἑταίρα

2019-10-26 23:06:50 UTC  

The fuax socialism of American liberalism is going to stain any actual socialist movement

2019-10-26 23:07:00 UTC  

The mainstream powers that be are overall though global capitalists

2019-10-26 23:07:16 UTC  

Or funded/supported by global capitalists

2019-10-26 23:07:43 UTC  

Socialists will not get ground in a country that still has a good amount of socio-economic mobility

2019-10-26 23:07:52 UTC  

That's why they propagate CEOs making more money

2019-10-26 23:08:20 UTC  

The bourgeoise-proletariat US vs THEM relies on them being static categories, like a caste

2019-10-26 23:08:28 UTC  

Rather than something where someone can move between

2019-10-26 23:08:44 UTC  

Capitalism facilitates horrible degenerate ideals of incelism and consumerism and market manipulation

2019-10-26 23:08:55 UTC  

It does

2019-10-26 23:09:01 UTC  

The ideals of fascistic degeneracy is to me stupid

2019-10-26 23:09:05 UTC  

And a corruption of history

2019-10-26 23:09:23 UTC  

Global Capitalism is not a fault for me, as if you take out the exploitation. I don't think you have anything in reverse to solve the problem.
It's not like you can get global socialist or communist order that might, produce and distribute the wealth?

2019-10-26 23:09:37 UTC  

I'm anti-global capitalist, anti-social progressive, and anti-liberal

2019-10-26 23:09:46 UTC  

As well as that, to some degree anti-industrialist

2019-10-26 23:10:00 UTC  

You know you are being contradictory here

2019-10-26 23:10:02 UTC  

It's not "global" socialist or communist

2019-10-26 23:10:09 UTC  

They have another term for that

2019-10-26 23:10:11 UTC  

Internationalist

2019-10-26 23:10:14 UTC  

you can't hold all these position togather

2019-10-26 23:10:26 UTC  

Give or take yes

2019-10-26 23:10:31 UTC  

I mean no hold bars I'm a femboy. It is was caused a lot of my disassociation of ideology

2019-10-26 23:10:50 UTC  

I am fine with internationalist. I don't think nations are too much of solid body as they used to be

2019-10-26 23:11:15 UTC  

I believe international finance has weakened nationalisk

2019-10-26 23:11:33 UTC  

This is why I love Mosley

2019-10-26 23:11:41 UTC  

He was critical of money

2019-10-26 23:11:48 UTC  

And international global finance

2019-10-26 23:11:49 UTC  

Nationalism has weakened, but I think Pan-nationalism or Supranationalism will become something bigger

2019-10-26 23:11:51 UTC  

Already is

2019-10-26 23:12:12 UTC  

I was totally convinced by Europe a nation

2019-10-26 23:12:40 UTC  

Varying different "globalisms" vs one another

2019-10-26 23:12:51 UTC  

Different ones to counteract Global Liberal Capitalism for example

2019-10-26 23:12:55 UTC  

dont care

2019-10-26 23:12:57 UTC  

didnt ask

2019-10-26 23:12:58 UTC  

plus ur gay

2019-10-26 23:13:00 UTC  

o

2019-10-26 23:13:04 UTC  

not u shrub