NSM, so on

you're right, yeah
but that's all the more reason to change it

Movements come and go

hardly

The ideas people follow today weren't any more noble 80 years ago

every movement around today is the result of a predecessor

The people following simply changed

of course not, that's not the question

alienation was simply less prevalent then

i'm not the 'good old days' type, though it may sound that way

antifa then was an antifascist organisation

now it's defanged, declawed, and thoroughly meaningless

punching nazis doesn't do jack shit

People don't know what they believe in, the only difference is it had more influence back then and actual people to fight against

It's something to do to feel like your not irrelevant

these aren't revolutionary movements that we see

people know what they believe, it's just difficult to draw it all together at times

"I'm having a difference!"

sometimes, sure

"I knocked a nazi out!"

but differences can be made, though i agree in the sense that these groups aren't doing so

it's gratification, nothing more

No they don't, even if you find an educated person who isn't entirely indifferent they can likely be convinced to change their beliefs

Provided they aren't radicalised, you mean

Beliefs don't matter, they never did

Actions are the important part

It kind of touches on what I said before

In my experience most people who believe extreme ideologies have shitty lives

poor quality of life provokes radicalisation

They need a radical solution to fix their situation

but for the most part these people do a lone wolf shooting or just sit online whining

the vast majority of people are indifferent

maybe they'll dress in black and go to an antifa event one weekend to own nazis

but they really don't care

nobody is indifferent

it's something to artificially make it seem like your life isn't entirely boring and pointless

they are thoroughly biased on questions regarding their own lives

but in our alienated and industrial society, we have been led to believe that politics is separate from that

Go up to most people, especially younger and ask their beliefs

If they have any, they likely don't even know why

when politics and their lives inevitably come together, they quickly develop beliefs

they'll give a talking point they heard a thousand times and immediately cave