Message from @Bourbon in Gift Wrap
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You did.
Like European Socialists and a Fascism Theory
Those weren't being compared
Communism and facism were
Yeah, that’s was I said. And that’s what I meant when I said “polar opposites”
European socalism and conservatism would be.
Actually look at their placement
Since they are east and west they are opposites
They are not either of the poles.
You do realize, a pole doesn’t mean a north/south comparison.
In this case it does
Stop worrying about semantics
Take a D-cell battery the square battery, for this example. The polar opposites are side-by-side.
Now apply it to that chart. Since polar opposites can be across from each other...I would like you to give me an example of how any two polar opposites on that chart...are similar. That’s all I’m asking.
When you are reffering to a globe it means north and south
That is a globe
Then based off that logic...tell me how these polar opposites are similar then.
Either:
Lunatic fringe and Center
Republicans and Soviet Union
or. Democrats and Fascism Theory
I never said anything aboutnpolar opposites
You did
I said if they are at the poles together
Then they are similar
Facists and communists are similar
Are you fucking stupid or just being a pain?
Fucking furries
They way how you argued that, I took it as the more one direction you go from the circle, the more similar with all extremes you are... not just the right is more similar with the right side, the top more similar to the top, the left more similar to all that’s left. Etc.
That. Was my misconception
Everyone else got it
But eh
Again, my misconception on what you meant by it. Not everyone is going to pick up on what you meant. But that’s an argument for a different time
I suppose
the way the political maps are set up arent all much based on ideologs. the way they are set up as followed. the X Axis is Econimical based, if you are more socialist in economics you fall to the left on the map if you are capitalist you call to the right of the map. the Y axis is how much power you want the government to have, with the top of the chart being authoritarian and the bottom being anarchism
the horseshoe theory really doesnt work if you know what the political map actually is about
It is great for showing the actual affects on society.
As in it shows what ideologies are oppressive what ideologies are free.
The more southern you go the freer it is, the more north the more authoritarian.
then that would have to be an entirely different map alltogether, not made a modification on the political map itself. youd have to create an ideology map, which is more complex than what the standard political map is
A 3D globe is best for showing everything.
In the case of the example I showed it is accurate to how much those ideologies promote freedom. But with modern politics the democrats would be much more authoritarian and Trump would need his own tab.
Totalitarian is more like for democrats
well, Totalitarianism is a subset of Authoritarianism, much the say way Fascism is